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What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

    What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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    #97

    @bloor
    Speak to me like I am five and explain to me what is an "audiophile"? (^_^)

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    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

      What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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      #98

      @bloor
      Why didn’t they braid the power cable?

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      • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

        What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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        #99

        @bloor HAVE THEY NOT HEARD OF SHIELDING???

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        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

          What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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          #100

          @bloor How about this one?

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          • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

            What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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            #101

            @bloor how did I know this was audiophile related before noticing the captions?

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            • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

              What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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              #102

              @bloor@bloor.tw that's that pokemon xurkitree

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              • moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.socialM moss_the_texie@rheinneckar.social

                @bloor
                Why didn’t they braid the power cable?

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                #103

                @Moss_the_TeXie @bloor Too little opportunity for interference 😄

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                • lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizzaL lp0_on_fire@social.linux.pizza

                  @bloor, I think that I'll just note that “wired” is an anagram of “weird” and leave it at that.

                  (Also of “I drew”, but I don't think that that's relevant.)

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                  #104

                  @lp0_on_fire
                  This cable is actually also "wider".
                  @bloor

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                  • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                    What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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                    #105

                    @bloor on my journey to FOSDEM last year I was surrounded by audiophools.

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                    • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                      What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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                      #106

                      @bloor is that a cope cage for the cable within, to defend against FPV drone-armed rabbits who'd like to chew on it ?

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                      • feloniouspunk@beige.partyF feloniouspunk@beige.party

                        @secretbatcave @bloor “Loins booming” now there’s a description

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                        #107

                        @FeloniousPunk @bloor haaa, that was a typo, noise still stands

                        Probably best to imagine it as Lord flasheart from Blackadder

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                        • peterlg@theblower.auP peterlg@theblower.au

                          @bloor

                          Here's the rest of that setup. Those are *mains power* cables — no bloody way that's legal.

                          The Reddit thread is fun, too.
                          https://www.reddit.com/r/audiophile/comments/1nzo3rw/for_true_separation_of_instruments/

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                          #108

                          @PeterLG @bloor

                          What's also pretty telling is the "power comes from the wall" mindset underlying this setup.

                          Unless they added these cables into the walls. And added a ton of filtering and smoothing.

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                          • ericphelps@mastodon.socialE ericphelps@mastodon.social

                            @bloor I think I see what they're trying to do. By breaking the wires up and interweaving them, my guess is they're trying to get the magnetic fields to cancel. Maybe minimize the magnetic coupling between the power and signal lines?

                            I think any improvement is going to be really minor, but I get it.

                            I think you could do something similar by splitting power through multiple pairs with differing twist rates (similar to how CAT6 cable is built). But that wouldn't look as AWESOME as this!

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                            #109

                            @ericphelps there will be zero cancellation though, because they aren’t twisted and (i think) they’re single pole.

                            To my eye they’ve created a cage dipole. I think if anything it’ll pick up more rubbish.

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                            • ricosuave@mastodon.onlineR ricosuave@mastodon.online

                              @bloor I recall visiting a high-end audio shop maybe 25-30 years ago. They had a Denon single CD player, almost a cubic foot in volume, for $5000. I asked salesperson about "why?", and among its features was "no stray light can get and interfere with the laser." Hell, a runaway train couldn't budge it. Strangely, I did not purchase it.

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                              #110

                              @ricosuave @bloor

                              That's why cameras are commonly a cubic foot in volume.

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                              • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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                                #111

                                @bloor this one is a perfect introduction to the game where you reverse engineer the audiophile's understanding of physics and electronics.

                                It's totally unhinged, and yet I can just see the common simplifications of crosstalk & stray capacitance that the designer latched onto. Amazing.

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                                • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                                  @bloor
                                  Speak to me like I am five and explain to me what is an "audiophile"? (^_^)

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                                  #112

                                  @hiisikoloart @bloor people who use music to listen to their audio equipment, instead of the other way around.

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                                  • vt52@ioc.exchangeV vt52@ioc.exchange

                                    @flipper @bloor I'm a big fan of optical interconnects with gold-plated connectors

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                                    #113

                                    @flipper @bloor (not even joking)

                                    https://www.dedicatedaudio.com/products/fospower-24k-gold-plated-toslink-digital-optical-audio-cable-s-pdif-3-ft

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                                    • turi@kinkycats.orgT turi@kinkycats.org

                                      @PeterLG @bloor

                                      What's also pretty telling is the "power comes from the wall" mindset underlying this setup.

                                      Unless they added these cables into the walls. And added a ton of filtering and smoothing.

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                                      #114

                                      @Turi

                                      Yup. The whole shebang is useless, and (I'm guessing here) probably crazy expensive, too.

                                      Silver wires (high-end audio nearly always uses silver), woven by hand through separators, then all wrapped together and terminated... $$$.

                                      I'd love to see inside that distribution box. A couple of coils and caps, maybe? 🤔

                                      @bloor

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                                      • stumpythemutt@social.linux.pizzaS stumpythemutt@social.linux.pizza

                                        @bloor Bob Pease (R.I.P.) wrote an article a long time ago about "audiophile" speaker cables. He found plain old zip cord and even ribbon cable was just as effective.

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                                        #115

                                        @StumpyTheMutt @bloor
                                        Of course, Pease's conclusion didn't surprise anyone with even modest electronics knowledge, but it is very satisfying to be able to point to the words of one of the all time great EEs, when some audiophool doesn't believe me.
                                        (But audiophools don't believe true experts, either. They only believe their preconceived notions, and those of other audiophools in their echo chambers.)

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                                        • bloor@bloor.twB bloor@bloor.tw

                                          What the, and I cannot overstate this, fuck?

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                                          #116

                                          @bloor

                                          The difference between science, engineering and actually understanding the world and magic and mysticism 🙄🤦‍♂️

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