An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

rpgwaiter@based.zone

@_elena wouldn't you *want* ice to see how unpopular they are? How hated they are? Wouldn't you want people to know that you don't fuck with ice? I feel like I'm missing something

haere@jorts.horse

@_elena there are some moderation lists for far right accounts that contain them by now, like https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:jagldyome3h27twtp46nxen7/lists/3kkqze5ftwk2h
subscribing to a list like that can block all its users, giving some cover as to why a user has that ICE account blocked
but yeah, bluesky leadership is not doing great at basic social decency

old_angry_queer@girlcock.club

@_elena gross. fuck bsky

munin@infosec.exchange

@_elena
@corbden

I am fully aware of the block vs. mute functionality, and I have blocked them not just for my own convenience reading, but to raise a significant barrier to harassment and protect the people with whom I speak also.

In fact, I subscribe to eva.computer's blocklist for all federal accounts (other than NOAA, NWS, CPSC, and the Federal Reserve) along with thousands of other people, which handled it automatically.

Blocking protects your friends, not just your eyes.

dysamoria@mastodon.social

@zotheca @_elena “… there are plenty of cases where state police have arrested ICE "officers" for acting without legal basis in their states.”

Do you have more info about this? I’ve never heard of this. A search of DDG finds no results of such things.

saupreiss@pfalz.social

@kerravonsen

For what reason? (I of course do understand the reason, I just happen to consider it not helpful). Ideally paired with reply-then-block…

@divVerent @_elena

kennebel@noc.social

@nazokiyoubinbou @shanie @u_urban @_elena
My partner and I regularly say, “We could be significantly less paranoid if everyone else was slightly more paranoid and security conscious.”

mapto@qoto.org

@_elena you know pixelating is pointless since you explain how to see the original list, don't you.

draconigen@packmates.org

@_elena so but, what about people living outside of the US? They can happily block ICE all day long without being affected in any way, right?
What would happen if the list of accounts blocking ICE would be flooded with masses of foreign accounts? Just curious ~

zotheca@mementomori.social

@dysamoria

I haven't created any databases. I've seen videos time and again where police officers in individual states have prohibited ICE agents from operating in their jurisdiction or arrested them and told them that they have no legal basis to act in their state. The videos went quite viral on Bluesky, but unfortunately Fediverse is always a little less up-to-date and apolitical.

@_elena

patrick@retro.social

@rpgwaiter @_elena Given that ICE is a bunch of shitty brown snowflakes, they do not take rejection lightly.
Will they actively follow up on the who-blocked-us list? Probably not.
Will they use it as a signal which protestor they picked off the street to be extra unfriendly to? Much more likely.

As such it's important to know what signal they can get about you. (and one of Alex Karp's companies surely will be able to give them an executive summary of who to treat extra badly) #uspol

andrinoff@fosstodon.org

@_elena idrc if someone can see me blocking ICE. why is this a big deal for people outside of the US?

troi@techhub.social

@_elena Agreed. Bsky is a much less interactive experience than here on Mastodon/Fediverse. I follow a couple of authors, a few sports sites, and check general news there. But yeah, it's mostly a "read only" environment if you aren't "somebody." I will note that those two authors do read and respond to replies.

I mostly consider Bluesky an "eMuskulated" Twitter and it seems to be replacing Twitter as a place mass media and "somebodies" go to post expecting that everyone is reading along.

_elena@mastodon.social

@troi Bluesky as "eMuskulated Twitter" took me out PRICELESS and so spot on!

noodlemaz@mstdn.games

@nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena some of the reasons aren't silly. There are simply blocks to a lot of people joining. Understanding a bit about what it even is, finding an instance, knowing you can't move your post history etc.
Instances randomly being shut down recently have also amplified the bad/hard to use name.
Sure it doesn't ultimately matter. But those are real issues for a lot of people, just because they aren't for you doesn't mean they're not there.

noodlemaz@mstdn.games

@bws @strght @_elena people like continuity, I think that's it really. And it's easy to set up, or at least easier than fedi.

nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

@noodlemaz @u_urban @_elena Thing is, there are a bunch of people and accounts, even sites dedicated to helping people with this. I know I've tried to directly help someone before who basically just could not be bothered. I even told them what instance! The issue isn't those supposed barriers which are not really any more than, say, signing up for an e-mail service. The issue is people just don't *want* to do it. In the end that's what it comes down to. They have to want to do it...

troi@techhub.social

@_elena feel free to use. Everything I do is public domain:) if I get a smile or a laugh I’ve achieved my goal.

_elena@mastodon.social

@troi oooh I've bookmarked your toot and I will certainly be using it (and crediting you!)

miki@dragonscave.space

@_elena This is also true about Mastodon*, but Mastodon actively tries to hide that fact from users and muddy the waters.

* It's technically hidden to users but not the admins of the instances involved, but if you're a gov agency, you're presumably on your own instance, as seems to be the custom here for the "big players."

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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."