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Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other.

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  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

    Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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    #11

    @j_bertolotti They weren't British, which, if memory serves, was one of the major actual points of lord of the flies, funnily enough :^)

    in all seriousness this is a great post that I needed, thanks.

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    • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

      Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

      Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

      abscientist@forall.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @j_bertolotti

      So why is everyone so mad at me for wearing a mask to stop spreading disease?

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      • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

        Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

        Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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        #13

        @j_bertolotti @timrichards I like to think because they were Tongan and not snotty face English school boys

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        • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

          Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

          Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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          #14

          @j_bertolotti I thought the takeaway was that Lord of the Files would only happen if it was spoiled male brats from some elite boarding school, anyway?

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          • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

            Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

            Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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            #15

            @j_bertolotti stories concern themselves with outliers not statistically unremarkable events.

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            • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

              Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

              Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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              #16

              @j_bertolotti
              It could be pointed out that those boys were not white and were not subjected to the English school system.

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              • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                #17

                @j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz i knew there was a reason i never liked that book! ​​

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                • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                  Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                  Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                  #18

                  as described in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humankind:_A_Hopeful_History as well 👍

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                  • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                    Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                    Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                    #19

                    @j_bertolotti The difference is that Lord of Flies is about private (or as the English call it 'public') school boys.

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                    • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                      Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                      Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                      #20

                      @j_bertolotti
                      According to "Lord of the Flies," in the absence of authority, a society will go to pieces.

                      The authorities loved it.

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                      • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                        Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                        Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                        #21

                        @j_bertolotti

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                        • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                          Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                          Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                          #22

                          @j_bertolotti I'm sorry to see so many "um, actually"s.

                          Beyond your example, disasters show people forming communities with strangers. Not only for mutual benefit, but to help the helpless.

                          Recent times have injured my belief that "most people are basically good". Is "most" closer to 51% than 99%? Does a lazy good count as good?

                          Hollywood tales of humans EAGER to turn on each other run deep. I keep doubting the actual history vs my expectations. But the history is real. Thx for the reminder.

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                          • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                            Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                            Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                            #23

                            @j_bertolotti
                            Fairly sure Lord of the flies was written AFTER a book which had stranded boys forming a society that worked....and was a reaction to that book saying na this is what would really happen, can't remember that book name

                            edit: First, William Golding wrote Lord of the Flies because he just didn’t buy the varnished version of events contained in an 1857 adventure novel, The Coral Island: A Tale of the Pacific Ocean (RM Ballentyne)

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                            • j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyzJ j_bertolotti@mathstodon.xyz

                              Random reminder that, despite what you read in "Lord of the Flies", when a real group of teenagers happened to get stranded on a inhabited island, they didn't start killing each other. On the contrary they worked together, built a commune, and survived in good health for 15 months (when they were saved by a passing ship).

                              Most people are good people. Even teenagers 😉

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongan_castaways

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                              #24

                              @j_bertolotti As much as I hate that book, I now almost feel sorry for the author - as I assume he based the characters’ behaviour on his own experiences at school.

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