We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
-
@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu So how would this work with Loops? As that has infinite scrolling, autoplay, push notifications (coming soon), and there for you page is only getting better.
Does this mean Loops is at high risk too?@sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.
That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.
The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:
Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!
https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission
Isn,t youtube the same? -
@EUCommission
Isn,t youtube the same?@marta_f_r@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu and Instagram Reels
-
@sam @EUCommission I'm guessing they only look at platforms once they grow large enough, there are such limits for reporting requirements at least.
That said, I think it could make sense to eventually implement features that prevent people from becoming too addicted to Loops too.
The current Loops algo and the content the platform has probably isn't as finely tuned to be extremely addictive and there's no reason to make it be though.
@ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission Enough with international double standards, Instagram and TikTok are equally addictive, they just have different age groups. Enforce changes on both or none. Is there similar action towards Instagram?
Congrats though, it's a step towards the right path
and setting an example for other countries 
-
@ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.
@tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.
-
@EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!
https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E
@stux @EUCommission I don't think we need short-video platforms at all
The purpose of the very idea of a short video platform is to be addictive and detrimental to attention spans.
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
"Kids between 12 and 15 spend 4 to 5 hours daily on Tiktok."
140 million users in the European Union alone.
Tiktok sure is an abomination but one must ask as well why parents and grandparents are so busy that they can't properly engage with their own kids. The cost of living crisis made of Tiktok a convenient child minder. Same with Youtube, on that regard.
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission - What an App to lose brain cells.
-
@tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.
@sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.
-
@EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!
https://vido.social/invite/a_019c0565-43b2-7142-a249-c4193ce9565dFNNtC5E
@EUCommission listen to this guy @stux
-
We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.
There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.
Key features of the addictive design:Infinite scrollAutoplayPush notificationsHighly personalised recommender system
We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.
@EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.
-
@EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.
@minfer@masto.es @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Knowing Search Engines do, most likely newspapers, blogs and more might get into that category to, unless it only counts when it's interaction on the website directly.
-
@sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.
@tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.
-
@EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.
Hi there, @grob!
The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH -
@EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.
Hello @axeln, META also falls under the category of "Very Large Online Platforms", which we supervise.
You can find an overview of all ongoing investigations for all these large companies here:
https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH -
@EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing!
Do you know how a fine works? Tiktok has to PAY US up to 6%, not the other way around lol
Jokes aside, it deserves a ban, but Gen Alpha would riot
-
@EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.
Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
In a recent example, the company X was fined €120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg
