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energisch_@troet.cafe

@Nike_Leonhard @randahl like in Australia, where most of the teens find ways around?
No - I, too, wished an internet, that's save for all to use. And accessible for all. Those plattforms who do wish to boost stuff, that's rather uhm, naughty and not nice?
Well, they can offer closed memberships, like clubs. Maybe with extra safety strings attached. But in general: Chat should be okay for everyone to use safely and without fans and algorithms to spread BS more quickly.

shaperofdefiance@mas.to

@randahl These are great (if unimplementable) measures, but kind of fall flat when the other side of this is they're going for age verification and signed a deal with Palantir for facial recognition tech.

jeppe@mastodon.social

@aruiz @ecomba @randahl as far as i know, each instance would have to ban
Which could put pressure on the moderation task for smaller instances.

arq_urb_sudaka@ursal.zone

@shaperOfDefiance @randahl when you think an European state is starting to enforce it's sovereignty...

budududuroiu@hachyderm.io

@randahl people cheering this and taking the populist veneer hook line and sinker need to be reminded that European politicians are in for making some pretty unpopular decisions related to: pensions, growth, further taxing of the middle class to find ReArm. Clamping down on platforms and venues for critical evaluations of society is part of the playbook regarding ruling from a position of unpopularity

tunneltoast@mastodon.social

@randahl

shaperofdefiance@mas.to

@arq_urb_sudaka Yeah, even the best case scenario doesn't look very good.
Even if they ditch the age verification thing and Palantir goes to shit soon, there's like one scenario where the legal project threads the needle perfectly, and about a hundred scenarios where the result is that the president of our National Footbal League can criminally charge foreigners, because they're hosted by the same company as a website where he thinks you can watch football for free.
@randahl

johns_priv@mastodon.social

@jeppe This is Sanchez we're talking about so, goodbye to Masto.cat
He might be a Spanish centrist but is against everything catalan.

That's the problem with regulations, we cannot trust 'government officials' to respect opinions that don't agree with their world.

I am against fascism, but I'm a pro catalan independence, so PSOE would prefer that I shut up.

tokeriis@helvede.net

@jeppe @aruiz @ecomba @randahl Shared ban lists exists for admins to implement.

Example:
https://github.com/gardenfence/blocklist

xs4me2@mastodon.social

@randahl

What you call, leading by example!

This is what the EU should adopt.

whatzaname@mstdn.social

@jeppe @randahl federating with the likes of Facebook and twitter was always a losing proposition for mastodonians. Abusors abuse, and pretending the trade off for content was worth it was always crass and easily seen through. FOMO kills community, uncompromising prinicipal nurtures community. Needy attention seekers shouldn't be running the show, folks.

danielquinn@mastodon.social

@randahl this is dangerous rhetoric from someone who doesn't appear to understand the implications.

Banning young people from social media isolates them from those that might support them while handing your citizen's biometric data to foreign 3rd-parties for "verification" only creates a target for surveillance and identity theft.

I get he's coming from the right place, but he's talking like an MPAA lawyer, pear-clutching "for the children".

lin11c@toad.social

@randahl
FINALLY some accountability for these monsters.

aapis@mastodon.world

@randahl yes please and thank you

aruiz@mastodon.social

@jeppe @ecomba @randahl sounds fair to me that an instance moderator has to comply with reasonable accountability laws for infrastructure that shapes society at large

drangnon@hachyderm.io

@ecomba @jeppe @randahl while I agree some things will get harder, I think part of the entire point of Mastodon and many other federated servers is that the content is not boosted algorithmically, but by users.

is best to have strong moderation, but unless the law is very sloppily written (a possibility, of course) I don't think it applies at all.

meanwhile hosting and boosting illegal content already has applicable laws (hence the adjective "illegal")

olorinhenderson@noc.social

@randahl

These are just comical, meaningless words, no? International law forbids this. We'll send emails to spam and letters to the shredder. Zero F given. Problem solved.

outofprintarchive@retro.pizza

@randahl

This really should be Europe wide thing.
It's way past due.

htpcnz@mastodon.social

@randahl unfortunately he will be in the list of new axis of evil made up by the Broligarchy... Come next election hope he id prepared to fight them as well as his opposition.

human3500@ottawa.place

@prefec2
Mastodon is, to my understanding, a protocol - not a platform. Think of it as http vs websites.

As for instances, many don't have executives i suspect.

Of course the law isn't written yet, so let's hope it's written well.
@jeppe @ecomba @randahl @androcat

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