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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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    #33

    @randahl Sanchez is really fine

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

      Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

      “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
      Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
      spreading hate must come at a cost.”

      Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

      https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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      #34

      One can expect people in Spain will move to Mastodon and then it will become more popular.

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      • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

        @randahl Potzblitz 🌩️ Wonderful ideas, hopefully they will be finalized in all of EU!

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        #35

        @energisch_
        Und dann ist es auch kein Problem mehr, Minderjährige da drauf zu lassen.
        @randahl

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        • nike_leonhard@literatur.socialN nike_leonhard@literatur.social

          @energisch_
          Und dann ist es auch kein Problem mehr, Minderjährige da drauf zu lassen.
          @randahl

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          #36

          @Nike_Leonhard @randahl like in Australia, where most of the teens find ways around?
          No - I, too, wished an internet, that's save for all to use. And accessible for all. Those plattforms who do wish to boost stuff, that's rather uhm, naughty and not nice?
          Well, they can offer closed memberships, like clubs. Maybe with extra safety strings attached. But in general: Chat should be okay for everyone to use safely and without 💩 fans and algorithms to spread BS more quickly.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

            Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

            “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
            Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
            spreading hate must come at a cost.”

            Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

            https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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            #37

            @randahl These are great (if unimplementable) measures, but kind of fall flat when the other side of this is they're going for age verification and signed a deal with Palantir for facial recognition tech.

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            • aruiz@mastodon.socialA aruiz@mastodon.social

              @ecomba @jeppe @randahl It is rather simple, if a node in the federation allows or amplifies that type of content, you ban the node from the fediverse

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              #38

              @aruiz @ecomba @randahl as far as i know, each instance would have to ban
              Which could put pressure on the moderation task for smaller instances.

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              • shaperofdefiance@mas.toS shaperofdefiance@mas.to

                @randahl These are great (if unimplementable) measures, but kind of fall flat when the other side of this is they're going for age verification and signed a deal with Palantir for facial recognition tech.

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                #39

                @shaperOfDefiance @randahl when you think an European state is starting to enforce it's sovereignty...

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                  #40

                  @randahl people cheering this and taking the populist veneer hook line and sinker need to be reminded that European politicians are in for making some pretty unpopular decisions related to: pensions, growth, further taxing of the middle class to find ReArm. Clamping down on platforms and venues for critical evaluations of society is part of the playbook regarding ruling from a position of unpopularity

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                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                    #41

                    @randahl 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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                    • arq_urb_sudaka@ursal.zoneA arq_urb_sudaka@ursal.zone

                      @shaperOfDefiance @randahl when you think an European state is starting to enforce it's sovereignty...

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                      #42

                      @arq_urb_sudaka Yeah, even the best case scenario doesn't look very good.
                      Even if they ditch the age verification thing and Palantir goes to shit soon, there's like one scenario where the legal project threads the needle perfectly, and about a hundred scenarios where the result is that the president of our National Footbal League can criminally charge foreigners, because they're hosted by the same company as a website where he thinks you can watch football for free.
                      @randahl

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                      • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                        @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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                        #43

                        @jeppe This is Sanchez we're talking about so, goodbye to Masto.cat
                        He might be a Spanish centrist but is against everything catalan.

                        That's the problem with regulations, we cannot trust 'government officials' to respect opinions that don't agree with their world.

                        I am against fascism, but I'm a pro catalan independence, so PSOE would prefer that I shut up.

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                        • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                          @aruiz @ecomba @randahl as far as i know, each instance would have to ban
                          Which could put pressure on the moderation task for smaller instances.

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                          #44

                          @jeppe @aruiz @ecomba @randahl Shared ban lists exists for admins to implement.

                          Example:
                          https://github.com/gardenfence/blocklist

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                            Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                            “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                            Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                            spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                            Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                            https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                            #45

                            @randahl

                            What you call, leading by example!

                            This is what the EU should adopt.

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                            • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                              @randahl What will that do to Mastodon? What about smaller or larger, or personal instances that federate?

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                              #46

                              @jeppe @randahl federating with the likes of Facebook and twitter was always a losing proposition for mastodonians. Abusors abuse, and pretending the trade off for content was worth it was always crass and easily seen through. FOMO kills community, uncompromising prinicipal nurtures community. Needy attention seekers shouldn't be running the show, folks.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                #47

                                @randahl this is dangerous rhetoric from someone who doesn't appear to understand the implications.

                                Banning young people from social media isolates them from those that might support them while handing your citizen's biometric data to foreign 3rd-parties for "verification" only creates a target for surveillance and identity theft.

                                I get he's coming from the right place, but he's talking like an MPAA lawyer, pear-clutching "for the children".

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                  Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                  “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                  Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                  spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                  Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                  https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                  #48

                                  @randahl
                                  💯 👍 🙏 👏 FINALLY some accountability for these monsters.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                    Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                    “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                    Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                    spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                    Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                    https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                    #49

                                    @randahl yes please and thank you

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                                    • jeppe@mastodon.socialJ jeppe@mastodon.social

                                      @aruiz @ecomba @randahl as far as i know, each instance would have to ban
                                      Which could put pressure on the moderation task for smaller instances.

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                                      #50

                                      @jeppe @ecomba @randahl sounds fair to me that an instance moderator has to comply with reasonable accountability laws for infrastructure that shapes society at large

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                                      • ecomba@ruby.socialE ecomba@ruby.social

                                        @jeppe @randahl I don’t acuse you of anything, nor did I imply. I was talking in a general sense. The federated nature of the fedi makes it a little muddier, that is very true. I still believe it’s a great move though. Some things will get harder, but as the saying goes, doing the right thing is more often than not harder.

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                                        #51

                                        @ecomba @jeppe @randahl while I agree some things will get harder, I think part of the entire point of Mastodon and many other federated servers is that the content is not boosted algorithmically, but by users.

                                        is best to have strong moderation, but unless the law is very sloppily written (a possibility, of course) I don't think it applies at all.

                                        meanwhile hosting and boosting illegal content already has applicable laws (hence the adjective "illegal")

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          Oooooh SNAP!!! 💥

                                          Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez of Spain:

                                          “First, we will change the law in Spain to hold platform executives legally accountable for many infringements taking place on their sites. This means that CEOs of these tech platforms will face criminal liability […]
                                          Second, we will turn algorithmic manipulation and amplification of illegal content into a new criminal offense. […]
                                          spreading hate must come at a cost.”

                                          Have a great weekend, Elon! 😘

                                          https://www.youtube.com/live/NElqgJ1aXFA?si=M52qiZYBt55KRamm

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                                          #52

                                          @randahl

                                          These are just comical, meaningless words, no? International law forbids this. We'll send emails to spam and letters to the shredder. Zero F given. Problem solved. 🙂

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