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God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

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  • gnate@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #103

    @alice
    Of course, the obvious, expected, normal procedure for this situation.
    @DavidNielsen

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    • cthululemon@social.cthululemon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #104

      @alice @aly @calvin

      I haven’t heard of GoodSense; where do you download it?

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      • 503bartley@pdx.social5 503bartley@pdx.social

        @alice Not without Waterfox and these extensions
        AdBlocker for YouTube
        Privacy Badger
        Facebook Container
        Facebook Direct Links
        Hide Google AI Overviews
        Qwant^h^h^h^h^h Startpage Search Engine (Europe based)
        Tracking and Ad Removal on Facebook

        Alternative providers https://goeuropean.org & https://docs.proton.me/doc?mode=open-url&token=NR710FE3MW#FgIAeN9UoR91

        ck0@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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        #105

        @503bartley @alice Isn't Qwant a scam anymore ? It has been for a very long time.
        As Neocities websites have been unreferenced by Bing lately, are they still available on Qwant ?

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

          adherry@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #106

          @alice I so wish firefox on iOS would finally add addon support. The only reason I still use Safari.

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            piyuv@techhub.social
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            #107

            @alice @eldersea flipper zero

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

              simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #108

              @alice

              Wiith lots and lots of content blocking in place ...

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              • dusk@todon.euD dusk@todon.eu

                @Sagaliciouzzz @alice

                You can hardly blame them for clicking “Accept All”, since attempting to reject cookies will often lead the user down a rabbit hole of dark patterns, instead of accessing whatever site you actually wanted to see.

                Firefox + uBlock Origin (and custom filter lists) happily helps me reject and not see such things on the pages I visit

                sagaliciouzzz@fribygda.noS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #109

                @dusk Yes, it takes much longer. And I don't blame them, I just get a little jolt of "oops!" since they seem to do it without even considering what they are agreeing to. I also use ublock, and I like it.

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

                  seq@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #110

                  @alice The scary thing is that most of them "don't mind". They're also watching "regular" TV with ad breaks every 10-15 minutes and barely even think about it happening. They're just soaking it up subconsciously. They don't know there's an alternative. They haven't got a slightest clue what Fediverse, Mastodon, Matrix et al or what the concept of self-hosting is. Some of them have noticed Signal mentioned, since our national police force twice went out and said that parents should be worried if they see their children using it. They don't know what it is though. When you try to explain what it does you can see the their eyes glazing over with disinterest almost immediately. They all still use Facebook, Instagram and TikTok all the time. They just "don't mind". The ones using YouTube don't really care about the massive amounts of ads there either. This is all ages from at least 28 and up (I very rarely meet or come across people younger than that). Finding someone working outside anything related to IT who is even remotely interested in this is still _super rare_, even in circles where government or state secrets are being handled. Getting someone at your employer to make it possible to add an ad-blocker to the Edge browser on work laptops is unthinkable. "A what?" The Snowden revelations didn't make even a dent over here. This is in Scandinavia.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

                    catdad@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #111

                    @alice my bleary eyes read this as 'trackers topped' for a brief second.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      God, how do normal people even browse the internet anymore?

                      nickynah@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #112

                      @alice it is insane that even a simple merch store has like 100 trackers. And links no longer go to the page they go to like 4 link trackers in between.
                      I just want to see stuff without a 20 voyeur companies looking at me like “what’re ya buying?”

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                      • catdad@ohai.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #113

                        @alice 😂😂😂

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                        • ck0@tech.lgbtC ck0@tech.lgbt

                          @503bartley @alice Isn't Qwant a scam anymore ? It has been for a very long time.
                          As Neocities websites have been unreferenced by Bing lately, are they still available on Qwant ?

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                          #114

                          @ck0 @alice Source?

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                          • lemonlolita@calckey.worldL lemonlolita@calckey.world

                            @503bartley@pdx.social @alice@lgbtqia.space
                            I love Waterfox, but I don't use facecrook so the negates the need for most of those extensions. I also love Want and Ecosia.
                            🩷

                            503bartley@pdx.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #115

                            @lemonlolita @alice Want?

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                            • 503bartley@pdx.social5 503bartley@pdx.social

                              @ck0 @alice Source?

                              ck0@tech.lgbtC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #116

                              @503bartley @alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant#Creation
                              For years, they raised founds for providing outdated Bing indexes. The French tech press was full of articles about this and switching CEO while almost no one used it in France.
                              Even public administrations which officially adopted Qwant as their search engine didn't use it because of the low result quality.

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                              • ck0@tech.lgbtC ck0@tech.lgbt

                                @503bartley @alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant#Creation
                                For years, they raised founds for providing outdated Bing indexes. The French tech press was full of articles about this and switching CEO while almost no one used it in France.
                                Even public administrations which officially adopted Qwant as their search engine didn't use it because of the low result quality.

                                503bartley@pdx.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #117

                                @ck0 @alice Point well taken. Using Startpage now.

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                                • trisschen@plural.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #118

                                  @alice @miss_rodent judging by the nonsensical takes such people tend to have, I think they just are taking constant psychic damage.

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                                  • lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #119
                                    @alice @kaya Some manner of felt dolls?
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                                    • ck0@tech.lgbtC ck0@tech.lgbt

                                      @503bartley @alice https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwant#Creation
                                      For years, they raised founds for providing outdated Bing indexes. The French tech press was full of articles about this and switching CEO while almost no one used it in France.
                                      Even public administrations which officially adopted Qwant as their search engine didn't use it because of the low result quality.

                                      503bartley@pdx.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #120

                                      @ck0 @alice That was then, but now they seem to be serious about search.

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                                      • 503bartley@pdx.social5 503bartley@pdx.social

                                        @ck0 @alice That was then, but now they seem to be serious about search.

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                                        #121

                                        @503bartley @alice I'll wait to see how it will be. But for now, it's still a vaporware company which punctionned public funding for the past CEO individual benefices.

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                                        • ck0@tech.lgbtC ck0@tech.lgbt

                                          @503bartley @alice I'll wait to see how it will be. But for now, it's still a vaporware company which punctionned public funding for the past CEO individual benefices.

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                                          #122

                                          @ck0 @alice punctionned?

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