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Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

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  • doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeD doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place

    @mmcknett @kiri @sundogplanets
    There's also the problem that computers running in space must be more resistant to radiation than the ones we use down here.
    The chips used there are different (and slower), use bigger semiconductor scale.

    AFAIK this just can't work, even aside from the issue of having a million additional satellites...

    (see https://taranis.ie/datacenters-in-space-are-a-terrible-horrible-no-good-idea/)

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    #31

    @Doomed_Daniel oh yeah, I can’t believe I forgot they have to be radiation-hardened, too!

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    • acm_redfox@jawns.clubA acm_redfox@jawns.club

      @kiri @sundogplanets laser guns for the AI uprising...

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      #32

      @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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      • iams@mastodon.socialI iams@mastodon.social

        @acm_redfox @kiri @sundogplanets Ice Particle Shotgun Missiles; the ice would hopefully melt under solar radiation and/or enter atmosphere after dislodging/shredding tf out of objects in orbit, maybe? First strike failed? More melting blammo ice cloud blasts. No lazers, grappling hooks, precise kenetic munitions, nukes, etc. Just a cloud of ice belched from high atmo from a dumb metal casing and a falling trajectory.

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        #33

        @iams
        Lmao
        @acm_redfox @sundogplanets

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        • kiri@fosstodon.orgK kiri@fosstodon.org

          @sundogplanets How would a data center event work in outer space? Heat would build up. Unless I'm missing something and the idea is to have something super worse than regular DCs down here?

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          #34

          @kiri @sundogplanets It doesn't have to work. It just has to trick rich people into thinking it might work.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            If anyone has time and energy to set up instructions for how to submit a comment to the FCC (it's really fucking complicated, on purpose, I'm sure), I would very much appreciate it! Otherwise I'll do it in the coming days.

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            #35

            @sundogplanets@mastodon.social A milliuon satellites is utterly barking insane. Based on the rate they're burning out GPU/VPUs in AI datacenters, my rough estimate is they're going to need 140 Falcon 9 launches PER DAY just to sustain the constellation. A million satellites that need replacement every 18 months on average?

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

              https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

              Comments due March 6.

              I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

              uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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              #36

              @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

              Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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              • uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU uwehalfhand@norcal.social

                @sundogplanets But SpaceX will “scal[e] to make a sentient sun to understand the Universe and extend the light of consciousness to the stars!” How could you possibly be against that?!?

                Yeah, it’s batshit crazy, Musk is hyping for IPO (although I don’t know if he believes it himself… he’s huffed his own farts a few times too many). I’ll be astonished if more than, I dunno, a few dozen ever get launched. By that point, it should be clear what a stupid idea it is.

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                #37

                @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                • vatvslpr@c.imV vatvslpr@c.im

                  @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                  I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                  #38

                  @VATVSLPR @sundogplanets Yeah, I think you’re right. It’s some crazy tapdancing, I’m just not sure how much of it Musk believes himself… I’d be prepared to believe any number between 0 and 100%

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                    Comments due March 6.

                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                    #39

                    @sundogplanets

                    If other countries have any sense, they'll shoot them down after notifying the UN whatever pertinent commitee.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                      Comments due March 6.

                      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                      #40

                      @sundogplanets

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                      • vatvslpr@c.imV vatvslpr@c.im

                        @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets
                        I think it's more about justifying the purchase of xAI, which otherwise makes no sense, not that orbital data centers make the tiniest bit of sense. It's part of a pattern of Musk using one of his companies to buy another to protect him from the shame of the purchased company going belly up. See Tesla/Solar City and xAI/X for previous examples. Don't be surprised if Neuralink is next.

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                        #41

                        @VATVSLPR @UweHalfHand @sundogplanets like a stupidity ponzi scheme. Using the first stupid as a down-payment on future stupid.

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                        • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

                          @kiri @sundogplanets It doesn't have to work. It just has to trick rich people into thinking it might work.

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                          #42

                          @lauerhahn Fair point!

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                            https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                            Comments due March 6.

                            I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                            #43

                            @sundogplanets Another huge distraction from the real challenges we face as a humanity?

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                              #44
                              Our economy never served the public. It is by definition in service to the financial system. Our society on the other hand has at times served the public. Forget the economy, embrace society, and the people with a million spacebux will lose all their power over you.

                              If only I could convince everyone else to do that too...

                              CC: @sundogplanets@mastodon.social
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                              • mmcknett@hachyderm.ioM mmcknett@hachyderm.io

                                @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

                                Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

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                                #45

                                @kiri @sundogplanets @mmcknett Surely that is the point of doing it, they will break and he has to launch more to fill that gap. It ensures continual launches and hence profits

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                  Comments due March 6.

                                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                  #46

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  what I personally want for my birthday on the 13th is for SpaceX or any large building to fall on Musk and end him.....I won't even ask for a Nobel Peace Prize if that were to happen. I will issue a small smile or two.....I yield back my time.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                    https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                    Comments due March 6.

                                    I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                    #47

                                    @sundogplanets Sounds like Musk - hubris unconstrained by reason.

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                      Comments due March 6.

                                      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                      #48

                                      @sundogplanets That means to not comply with Police investigations and Courts orders (grok, grokipedia,...) worldwide through alternative SpaceX internet except by use of force. That means controlling Space launches. In addition to polluting our sky and the Space

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                        Comments due March 6.

                                        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                                        muod@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #49

                                        @sundogplanets AI data centers project means the invasion of public space by one SpaceX!

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                                          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                                          Comments due March 6.

                                          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                                          #50

                                          @sundogplanets With Kessler syndrome thought to be inevitable now I'm surprised this is even being entertained and policy isn't being drawn up to ration new satellites and mandate retrieval of spent/decommissioned/junk satellites in order to get approval for a new one.

                                          https://nasaspacenews.com/2025/01/urgent-warning-kessler-syndrome-could-collapse-modern-technology/#Why_the_Sudden_Alarm

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