The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.

crazyeddie@mastodon.social

@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan I blame stackoverflow.

That guy set out with the stated goal of killing all forums and usenet and having all questions and such in one central database used by everyone.

It fucking worked. Those things all died and search results largely point at that place. AI is starting to swamp it out, but there you go...

I was actually slow to shift from usenet/forum to stackoverflow. Eventually I did until I just stopped participating in the "community".

marlinz@sueden.social

@Daojoan yes! We had a discussion about this at my customer, and a user survey. The result has been 50/50 between video and written. We did a blended learning concept and we decided to choose the best for the users .

I agree , I like written as well more

fsinn@mas.to

@Daojoan omg this. Every click to a link is painful.

jmmaok@mastodon.online

@Daojoan

FWIW, many educators also find this terrible from an instructor’s point of view. Of course, some enjoy it. But for many it shifts the focus from teaching, learning, and subject matter to performing on screen, which is not what we got into the field for in the first place.

Do not underestimate the extent the ongoing “pivot to video” reflects what can be monetized rather than actual preference or effectiveness.

urwumpe@hessen.social

@Daojoan Like an university lecture without text books and lecture notes. Can't be that bad, right? Its not like development is complex and (often) hard....

#teaching #slop

akulbansal5@mastodon.social

@Daojoan Now there is a AI button on youtube videos which you can use for summarizing the video or asking other questions.

suzannealdrich@hachyderm.io

@Daojoan when I tell people that the video is basically garbage because I’m never gonna watch it, just peel off the transcript, they look at me in utter shock but man I cannot glean information from some rando droning on and on about everything except the thing, then two sentences on the thing, and now we’ve moved onto tangential shores.

koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

@Daojoan As if they are meant to be training some GenAI tool or something.

orb2069@mastodon.online

@miszeleq @earthshine @Daojoan

We're going to find out in twenty years that the endless torrent of spam that drove people away from public forums to Discord and Facebook was funded/aided by Facebook and Discord.

It's fucking Jia Tan, all the way down. I know it in my bones.

ianto_jones@mastodon.social

@Daojoan the inability to process written language was the first slice at the throat, imo.

orb2069@mastodon.online

@JMMaok @Daojoan

This. YouTube is the last place pretending to pay people actual money. The twenty-minute leadup is them shaking the cup to pad out the runtime long enough to get monetized.

richih@chaos.social

@Daojoan not to toot my own horn too much, but this has been annoying me for YEARS, and after pushing for way too long there's now interactive learning built into #Grafana.. as in, If you go to https://play.grafana.org/alerting , click the question mark in the upper right, and then select the interactive guide, it teaches you within the UI

kitsunevixi@sakurajima.social

@lil5@social.linux.pizza @Daojoan@mastodon.social Thanks for these links.

In my experience, mojeek can sometimes be good at showing personal sites but it can also show a lot of SEO spam that appears AI generated and there's a lot missing from its index. It's like rolling the dice whether it will have any useful results to a query and I ended up quitting it because it was so unreliable.

Kagi often has low quality results but what you're paying for is the the filtering tools which can help dial things in.

kitsunevixi@sakurajima.social

@miszeleq@mastodon.com.pl @Daojoan@mastodon.social @earthshine@masto.hackers.town Canva had the idea of archiving the Affinity suite forums and moving the community into Discord.

Which is why I'm sticking with v2 and not trusting v3.

stompyrobot@mastodon.gamedev.place

@Daojoan
"Oh, I remember this video talked about that. Let me just ctrl-F the keyword to find the right part of the video..."

rejzor@mastodon.social

@Daojoan And to make matters worse, there is fuck ton of stupid Ai generated generic slop videos that don't actually fix anything, it's just a generic video to fix some very broad issue and you can find like 15 same videos from different "creators".

macross@infosec.town

@Daojoan

it is the WORST, but more on that later! 🤮

debacle@framapiaf.org

@Daojoan

I remember, that I had to find a certain function on a device I own.

Explaining where to find it, takes two simple sentences in English, maybe 200 bytes.

The only thing, I found on the net: A multi-minute #video. Megabytes wasted. Let's burn the planet.

Next level: #AI generated #tutorial videos.

apzpins@some.apz.fi

@Daojoan I swear I'm constantly running into a theme, were something that's better off as text is made a video and then some complicated disassembly tutorial again is in text form that is so vague most of the time I have no idea what's been referred to, especially when it's put through a machine translator first.

odaraia@mastodon.green

@Daojoan You are onto the truth. I love the convenience and art of video/film. However, "educational film and tv" are time consuming and frequently/usually unclear. While I use maps for navigation instead of a list of directions, I much prefer a guide with good clear drawings to a video tutorial. The latter are to keep viewers online while data harvesting. It's the tyranny of the filmmaker to control how viewers are fed information. As kids, we mocked "educational films" as time out.

Abspeckgeflüster – Forum für Menschen mit Gewicht(ung)

The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video.