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  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

    @donhawkins

    You opened a whole can of worms with these unpopular opinions.

    I am not quite sure what you are saying the generalities about people's intelligence, but that sounds like some serious boomer logic.

    We will have to disagree. I believe privacy is a human right. I also believe community safety is a shared responsibility. Pseudonyms are a legitimate privacy tool for many people, including victims, not just a mask for trash talk. Accountability comes from community standards and moderation, not from demanding people surrender their digital privacy.

    Being capable of self defense doesn't mean a community should tolerate harassment. We should only allow the culture we want to build. Decent spaces require active maintenance from everyone, not just those being targeted.

    You mentioned ICE, so lets address that: The problem with ICE isn't just that they hide their faces, it is that they are public servants serving the people while hiding their faces. The situation changes when it is a private citizen trying to protect themselves.

    It isn't being a hero or whatever, it is doing what is right and making sure this space doesn't turn into a trash fire.

    This is a topic I am not looking for a debate. Either be a decent person on this platform or GTFO.

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    #10

    @terminaltilt
    Ahh, and there it is, first ageism and then a threat. I don’t intimidate, Skippy. Whoever you might be, you represent the very issues you complain about. Again, my original comment stands.

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    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

      @donhawkins

      You opened a whole can of worms with these unpopular opinions.

      I am not quite sure what you are saying the generalities about people's intelligence, but that sounds like some serious boomer logic.

      We will have to disagree. I believe privacy is a human right. I also believe community safety is a shared responsibility. Pseudonyms are a legitimate privacy tool for many people, including victims, not just a mask for trash talk. Accountability comes from community standards and moderation, not from demanding people surrender their digital privacy.

      Being capable of self defense doesn't mean a community should tolerate harassment. We should only allow the culture we want to build. Decent spaces require active maintenance from everyone, not just those being targeted.

      You mentioned ICE, so lets address that: The problem with ICE isn't just that they hide their faces, it is that they are public servants serving the people while hiding their faces. The situation changes when it is a private citizen trying to protect themselves.

      It isn't being a hero or whatever, it is doing what is right and making sure this space doesn't turn into a trash fire.

      This is a topic I am not looking for a debate. Either be a decent person on this platform or GTFO.

      donhawkins@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @terminaltilt
      “Unpopular opinions”? Are you some self appointed spokesperson for everyone?

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      • donhawkins@mastodon.socialD donhawkins@mastodon.social

        @terminaltilt
        I think lighting a fire under a bunch of vigilante-rescue-rangers ends up making a bigger mess than we started with.

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        #12

        @donhawkins @terminaltilt Societies are group activities. A "you look after your own and I'll look after mine" attitude is, by definition, antisocial. If you're so disinterested in society, and people in general, don't pick fights. It doesn't help anyone, rather reinforces prejudices of the author, the audience, and makes you sound foolish. Causing someone to sling mud doesn't prove the world is a sewer, only that you cause it to be so when you appear. That's a weird power to exercise. So long!

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        • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

          Mastodon is only a decent community because we actively maintain it. If you see harassment, especially men targeting women, don't just scroll past. Call it out and report it. Let's keep the space clean. Take out the trash.

          #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediTips #CommunityStandards #Safety #StopHarassment #WomenInTech #HumanRights

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          #13

          @terminaltilt
          I you see people paternalistically reinforce harmful binary gender roles, say something. Take out the trash.

          There is no equality under capitalism, only equal exploitation.

          If you see a person harassing another person, you intervene. You dont think about gender roles for one second. This is how solidarity functions. It is not limited to gender, to race, even to species. We live, therefore we take care. Animals who think and speak different than us can do it. We take example.

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          • haui@mastodon.giftedmc.comH haui@mastodon.giftedmc.com

            @terminaltilt
            I you see people paternalistically reinforce harmful binary gender roles, say something. Take out the trash.

            There is no equality under capitalism, only equal exploitation.

            If you see a person harassing another person, you intervene. You dont think about gender roles for one second. This is how solidarity functions. It is not limited to gender, to race, even to species. We live, therefore we take care. Animals who think and speak different than us can do it. We take example.

            terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #14

            @haui

            I completely agree. My specific mention of gender was a call to address a common, visible pattern of harassment (which I did witness earlier today and too often), but the goal is absolutely a safer space for everyone, across all lines. Solidarity is the only way we keep these communities human.

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            • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

              Mastodon is only a decent community because we actively maintain it. If you see harassment, especially men targeting women, don't just scroll past. Call it out and report it. Let's keep the space clean. Take out the trash.

              #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediTips #CommunityStandards #Safety #StopHarassment #WomenInTech #HumanRights

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              #15

              @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social And keep in mind that all reports you make here are read by real people!

              RE: https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80

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              • donhawkins@mastodon.socialD donhawkins@mastodon.social

                @terminaltilt

                Women, are generally smarter than men, and fully capable of taking care of themselves on a social network. This is not a real world alley.

                Want a safer Fediverse for ‘everyone’?

                Lose the pseudonym logins. Just the way ICE assholes hide their identity behind a mask … pseudonym logins allow freaks to talk trash from their mom’s basement that they wouldn’t otherwise.

                Besides moderators already work O.T. making sure no one says anything mean about Israel.

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                #16

                @donhawkins @terminaltilt
                Wow, you sure are exemplifying the problem dude.

                Also, non-pseudonym posting is specifically dangerous for a lot of people, that's just an ignorant suggestion on the face of it. Anonymous assholes can still be blocked; doxxing yourself just makes it easier for those same assholes to harass you irl.

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                • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                  @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social And keep in mind that all reports you make here are read by real people!

                  RE: https://transfem.social/notes/adhk91r22eiv0h80

                  terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @2something

                  Yes, this is a great point. I really like my instance's moderators and I have seen them do some pretty cool stuff.

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                  • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                    @donhawkins

                    You opened a whole can of worms with these unpopular opinions.

                    I am not quite sure what you are saying the generalities about people's intelligence, but that sounds like some serious boomer logic.

                    We will have to disagree. I believe privacy is a human right. I also believe community safety is a shared responsibility. Pseudonyms are a legitimate privacy tool for many people, including victims, not just a mask for trash talk. Accountability comes from community standards and moderation, not from demanding people surrender their digital privacy.

                    Being capable of self defense doesn't mean a community should tolerate harassment. We should only allow the culture we want to build. Decent spaces require active maintenance from everyone, not just those being targeted.

                    You mentioned ICE, so lets address that: The problem with ICE isn't just that they hide their faces, it is that they are public servants serving the people while hiding their faces. The situation changes when it is a private citizen trying to protect themselves.

                    It isn't being a hero or whatever, it is doing what is right and making sure this space doesn't turn into a trash fire.

                    This is a topic I am not looking for a debate. Either be a decent person on this platform or GTFO.

                    jztusk@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @terminaltilt @donhawkins

                    Well, I reported him, and am blocking.

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                    • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                      Mastodon is only a decent community because we actively maintain it. If you see harassment, especially men targeting women, don't just scroll past. Call it out and report it. Let's keep the space clean. Take out the trash.

                      #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediTips #CommunityStandards #Safety #StopHarassment #WomenInTech #HumanRights

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @terminaltilt

                      report vatnik accounts

                      they're always trying to sneak in

                      a vatnik is someone who pushes kremlin disinfo narratives

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                      • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                        Mastodon is only a decent community because we actively maintain it. If you see harassment, especially men targeting women, don't just scroll past. Call it out and report it. Let's keep the space clean. Take out the trash.

                        #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediTips #CommunityStandards #Safety #StopHarassment #WomenInTech #HumanRights

                        crossgolf_rebel@moppels.barC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social Can we apply that to the entire network, please?
                        According to your statement, 50% of the Fediverse is crap.
                        Which either means I'm crap because I don't use Mastodon, or you have no idea about this network.

                        I would prefer the latter, that you have no idea about the Fediverse.

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                        • crossgolf_rebel@moppels.barC crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar

                          @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social Can we apply that to the entire network, please?
                          According to your statement, 50% of the Fediverse is crap.
                          Which either means I'm crap because I don't use Mastodon, or you have no idea about this network.

                          I would prefer the latter, that you have no idea about the Fediverse.

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                          #21

                          @crossgolf_rebel @terminaltilt my dude, absolutely nothing in that post even hinted that the parts of fedi that don’t use mastodon are crap. stop trying to victimize yourself.

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                          • juliette@mastodon.greenJ juliette@mastodon.green

                            @crossgolf_rebel @terminaltilt my dude, absolutely nothing in that post even hinted that the parts of fedi that don’t use mastodon are crap. stop trying to victimize yourself.

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                            #22

                            @juliette@mastodon.green But it says something else.
                            Leaving out the rest of the Fediverse implies exactly that, that only the good guys use Mastodon.
                            And, I didn't write this differe
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                            • crossgolf_rebel@moppels.barC crossgolf_rebel@moppels.bar

                              @juliette@mastodon.green But it says something else.
                              Leaving out the rest of the Fediverse implies exactly that, that only the good guys use Mastodon.
                              And, I didn't write this differe
                              @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                              #23

                              @crossgolf_rebel @juliette @terminaltilt ???

                              The post talks exclusively about Mastodon. Leaving out the rest of the Fediverse doesn't imply anything.

                              You are making stuff up.

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                              • terminaltilt@climatejustice.socialT terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

                                Mastodon is only a decent community because we actively maintain it. If you see harassment, especially men targeting women, don't just scroll past. Call it out and report it. Let's keep the space clean. Take out the trash.

                                #Mastodon #Fediverse #FediTips #CommunityStandards #Safety #StopHarassment #WomenInTech #HumanRights

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                                #24

                                @terminaltilt Yep. Allllso shitbros harassing Black users. That happens entirely too often.

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                                • G goedelchen@mastodontech.de

                                  @crossgolf_rebel @juliette @terminaltilt ???

                                  The post talks exclusively about Mastodon. Leaving out the rest of the Fediverse doesn't imply anything.

                                  You are making stuff up.

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                                  #25

                                  @goedelchen@mastodontech.de How does the author know for sure that all the users he addresses use Mastodon?
                                  Mastodon is the only service in the Fediverse that deliberately does not display the origin (service used) of replies.

                                  The statement made is just as false as claiming that “my Thunderbird mail contacts” are the best. It doesn't matter what other software they were written with.

                                  This conversation does not become a “Mastodon conversation” just because you are reading the post.

                                  The above statement becomes even more inconsistent when one considers that thruthSocial is also Mastodon.

                                  @juliette@mastodon.green @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social

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                                  • donhawkins@mastodon.socialD donhawkins@mastodon.social

                                    @terminaltilt@climatejustice.social
                                    Nice manifesto. I see you are incapable of disagreeing without violating one of your own tenets. “Boomer” sounds like “ageism”. Just another “ism” designed to be divisive. But, of course you are typing from behind a pseudonym I see. My comment stands.

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                                    #26

                                    @donhawkins you're insufferable.

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                                    • donhawkins@mastodon.socialD donhawkins@mastodon.social

                                      @terminaltilt

                                      Women, are generally smarter than men, and fully capable of taking care of themselves on a social network. This is not a real world alley.

                                      Want a safer Fediverse for ‘everyone’?

                                      Lose the pseudonym logins. Just the way ICE assholes hide their identity behind a mask … pseudonym logins allow freaks to talk trash from their mom’s basement that they wouldn’t otherwise.

                                      Besides moderators already work O.T. making sure no one says anything mean about Israel.

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                                      #27

                                      @donhawkins
                                      If you bring up that pseudonyms are bad, then post your ID. Otherwise nobody knows if you're using a pseudonym yourself.

                                      @terminaltilt

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