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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

    @admin

    no. you don't understand the topic

    first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

    3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

    when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

    it's just math

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    #76

    @benroyce

    If that's the case, then voting third party would have no effect on the other two parties.

    I've been told that my vote for a third party helped Harris in the last election... I've been told that my third party vote helped Trump in the last election.

    Both can't be true.. and if they are, then I need to be arrested and jailed for voter fraud, because that means I voted three times with one vote.

    Third party voters are voting their conscience, as they should, and divides nothing. -c-

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @admin

      no. you don't understand the topic

      first past the post means only two parties dominate. they cannibalize the platforms of smaller parties because of the math of the voting system. 3rd parties are unstable in fptp, and fade away

      3rd party's only value in our voting system is to divide the left, or the right, and help the other side win

      when you vote 3rd party, all you are doing is helping trump. this isn't your intention, but that is exactly what you are doing

      it's just math

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      #77

      @benroyce

      The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.

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      • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

        @benroyce

        No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

        It won't and we both know it.

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        #78

        @benroyce

        Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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        • radioclash@retro.pizzaR radioclash@retro.pizza

          @pascaline @benroyce also sports were gendered - boys had to play rugby, football and sometimes hockey. Only the girls could play tennis which I wanted to play. And I wasn't good at swimming - again I was abandoned cos I didn't progress fast enough and left to the shallow end.

          There was no choice, and I didn't like team sports.

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          #79

          @radioclash

          Ha, the gendering is so stupid.
          The boys were creating very cool things with wood, metal, saws, and much more. All I had was a sewing machine (if I was 'lucky') but for the rest it was knitting and so on. Boring. I mean; it can be fun and I actually like it, but I really would have loved doing something the boys did. But alas, we were not allowed.

          I was very good at swimming (super fast) but I was afraid to dive. So, I preferred swimming alone to avoid the bullying.

          @benroyce

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          • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

            @benroyce

            No, it's policy. We decide to tell people not to come here, don't do business here - how will that get more people to vote for reasonable candidates?

            It won't and we both know it.

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            #80

            @tuban_muzuru

            i don't think canadians are ceasing to come because i got on social media and said the usa sucks

            i do think canadians are ceasing to come because an orange turd got on social media and threatened to annex them

            and the question is why the orange turd is capable of doing that

            and the answer is because enough couldn't be bothered to vote, and enough are ignorants who love bigotry, that he is in power

            it's not anything we control anymore

            we had control, and we blew it

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            • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

              @benroyce

              Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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              #81

              @tuban_muzuru

              the democrats fucking suck

              replace them with young leftists

              show up in the primaries

              but just not voting and having no transition means you're just handing more to maga. and even less will visit the driftless

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              • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                @benroyce

                Y'know what might make a difference, roust out our gerontocratic Democratic leadership - now those folks have no grasp of reality. How about not-voting for them?

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                #82

                @tuban_muzuru @benroyce

                I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.

                There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal™

                The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                  #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                  Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                  As an American: don't come here

                  Don't do business with the #USA

                  Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                  https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                  #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                  #83

                  @benroyce 🔥

                  Somehow, FIFA is completely missed the fact that the World Cup in the United States poses a material health risk to anyone outside of the United States wanting to view it. And that toy prize they gave to Trump that didn’t help that did not help.

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                  • pascaline@mastodon.nlP pascaline@mastodon.nl

                    @radioclash

                    Ha, the gendering is so stupid.
                    The boys were creating very cool things with wood, metal, saws, and much more. All I had was a sewing machine (if I was 'lucky') but for the rest it was knitting and so on. Boring. I mean; it can be fun and I actually like it, but I really would have loved doing something the boys did. But alas, we were not allowed.

                    I was very good at swimming (super fast) but I was afraid to dive. So, I preferred swimming alone to avoid the bullying.

                    @benroyce

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                    #84

                    @pascaline @benroyce I struggle to sew now because it was so gendered in school. I'd rather they taught ALL of us to knit and sew....but we did a little sampler work once but it wasm't a thing.

                    Also being 'knot blind' doesn't help. It's not exactly dyspraxia but something like that, I can't tie knots at all, ties are a problem.

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                    • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                      @benroyce

                      If that's the case, then voting third party would have no effect on the other two parties.

                      I've been told that my vote for a third party helped Harris in the last election... I've been told that my third party vote helped Trump in the last election.

                      Both can't be true.. and if they are, then I need to be arrested and jailed for voter fraud, because that means I voted three times with one vote.

                      Third party voters are voting their conscience, as they should, and divides nothing. -c-

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                      #85

                      @admin

                      i don't know what to say to you. you're saying something that's just simply false. a third party vote divides the left and hands a win to trump

                      happened with nader in 2000

                      happened with perot in 1992 (in that case, it was dividing the right, giving a win to clinton)

                      are you familiar with the idea of someone who has good intentions but only winds up hurting something?

                      that is what you are doing

                      watch this, learn about voting systems:

                      https://youtu.be/qf7ws2DF-zk

                      (the title is just edgy)

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                      • admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.netA admin@mastodon.ai8w.ddns.net

                        @benroyce

                        The "divides the vote for X party" argument only works if you assume that the third party vote already belonged to one of the two major parties to begin with - and it doesn't.

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                        #86

                        @admin

                        that's not true

                        if i am left leaning, i prefer the 3rd party candidate, but if that candidate doesn't win, i certainly don't want trump

                        but i get trump, because of the way the voting system works, because i voted 3rd party

                        it's just math, in our sucky fptp voting system

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                        • paninid@mastodon.worldP paninid@mastodon.world

                          @tuban_muzuru @benroyce

                          I don’t think “reasonable leadership” is an option on the table anymore.

                          There’s no going back to the “old normal” here in the New Normal™

                          The options are the unreasonable vs the wicked.

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                          #87

                          @paninid @benroyce

                          "Inspiration move me brightly
                          Light the song with sense and color
                          Hold away despair
                          More than this I will not ask
                          Faced with mysteries dark and vast
                          Statements just seem vain at last
                          Some rise, some fall, some climb
                          To get to Terrapin"

                          Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.

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                          • tuban_muzuru@beige.partyT tuban_muzuru@beige.party

                            @paninid @benroyce

                            "Inspiration move me brightly
                            Light the song with sense and color
                            Hold away despair
                            More than this I will not ask
                            Faced with mysteries dark and vast
                            Statements just seem vain at last
                            Some rise, some fall, some climb
                            To get to Terrapin"

                            Truth is, Ben, I'll be glad to be gone.

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                            #88

                            @tuban_muzuru @paninid

                            we all come and go

                            it's nice to leave a mark though

                            to matter, in a way that made a difference. doesn't have to be discovering penicillin. and to matter to our loved ones is the most vital

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                            • kristen_d@mastodon.socialK kristen_d@mastodon.social

                              @benroyce Good. Fuck the United States, land of the criminal pedophiles, home of the free billionaires to fuck everyone and everything because feelings. I hope it's such an embarrassing dud just like needledick Trump. #Loser #FIFA #WorldCup #Boycott #SuckUp #Assholes who capitulate.

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                              #89

                              @kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
                              It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind. 🔥🧟‍♂️😔

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                Over the weekend, 17,000 people canceled their #WorldCup tickets

                                #FIFA is holding an emergency meeting

                                Maybe they will give Agent Orange another pretty trophy? Maybe bigger, more gold... really sparkly? Will that fix the problem? (/s)

                                As an American: don't come here

                                Don't do business with the #USA

                                Until we clean this shit up. Mainly: we #vote #primaries #primaries2026 and get some real left candidates

                                https://www.ticketnews.com/2026/01/nearly-17000-fans-cancel-2026-world-cup-tickets-amid-boycott/

                                #Boycott #BoycottUSA #Soccer #Football #Sports

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                                #90

                                @benroyce There is also a european wide campaign going to migrate away from US big tech. That one is going to hurt even more.
                                So far I've gotten rid of the streaming services, the social media, Microsoft and amazon. I'm currently working on leaving Google but that one is a bit more tricky.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                  that's right

                                  no uprising happens just because someone starts rioting. why are they rioting? what do they stand for? who knows

                                  if people vote, and then the vote is denied, and the people rise up: absolutely everyone is crystal clear as to what is happening and why. so people join in, because they know the message being delivered

                                  so we have to vote first. otherwise there is no coherency of meaning

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                                  #91

                                  @benroyce

                                  Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?

                                  Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?

                                  Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.

                                  @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                                  • lynfox@aus.socialL lynfox@aus.social

                                    @benroyce

                                    Are you just trying to be optimistic or do truly believe he will let you have elections again?
                                    He said there would be no voting after the last one, and he's trying to start world war 3 so he can cancel them.
                                    If that doesn't work he'll just destroy the opposition votes.
                                    The only option he's leaving you mass uprising and probably civil war.

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                                    #92

                                    @lynfox @benroyce This is a possibility, but his takedown is just as possible sooner than you might think. But I’m on record, the overthrow of the Emperor will be just a battle won, not winning the war, there’s a lot more to come to complete our ‘Remove Head From Ass’ operation 2025-26. 🤔

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                                    • huntn00@mastodon.worldH huntn00@mastodon.world

                                      @kristen_d @benroyce My view is Fuck the US as it currently exists, in hope that we collectively remove our heads from our asses. Sadly, ‘cause and effect’ dictates whole scale suffering, when the majority accept malfeasance that harms everyone and themselves, but they can’t be bothered because it might upset their economies.
                                      It is what it is. The STUPID ones blame liberals because they’ve been drinking too much of Humpty’s poison, and struck blind. 🔥🧟‍♂️😔

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                                      #93

                                      @Huntn00 @benroyce All of what you said, yep. The cruelty's no accident - they get off on it. It's why the photographers embedded with ICE for Fox, OANN and the rest of the slime are smiling while they film the carnage. They get moist from this shit.

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                                      • dnkboston@apobangpo.spaceD dnkboston@apobangpo.space

                                        @benroyce

                                        Just...wow. How do these people keep coming out of the woodwork to discourage voting and ultimately *meaning*?

                                        Someone tried to take something important away from you--so you just let them? You don't fight to preserve something that's of existential importance?

                                        Those are rhetorical questions, BTW.

                                        @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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                                        #94

                                        @dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                        unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there

                                        these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism

                                        or they are troll psyop to suppress the vote with learned helplessness

                                        i can never tell

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @dnkboston @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

                                          unfortunately, there is a lot of weak will and mindless cynicism out there

                                          these people don't seem to understand that their own attitude is willing submission to fascism

                                          or they are troll psyop to suppress the vote with learned helplessness

                                          i can never tell

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                                          #95

                                          @benroyce I tend to go with the latter. @PaulaToThePeople @bazcook @ikuturso @lynfox

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