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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

    In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

    Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

    Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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    #15

    @randahl What form did the "authorization" given by the USG for Lansing's "declaration" take, and does it have the force of law? I'll assume for the purposes of discussion that "will not object" means "will not ever object".

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

      In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

      Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

      Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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      #16

      @randahl @benroyce US threatened to take the islands by force if Denmark would not sell them. They were convinced that Germany would seize them and Denmark wouldn’t be able to defend them. Same argument they’re using with Greenland.

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

        In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

        Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

        Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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        #17

        @randahl Not like it matters. Have you seen our Constitution? The Bill of Rights? I know the #orangefacedbuffoon hasn't. At this point I'm convinced him and all his cronies don't even know how to read. #fucktrump

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        • invadersil@mastodon.socialI invadersil@mastodon.social

          @randahl Is that like how Ukraine was always going to be protected if they gave up their nuclear arms? Is it like that?

          That worked out well, didn't it.

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          #18

          @invadersil @randahl
          You might want to read the exact wording of the Budapest memorandum...

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          • mok0@mastodon.onlineM mok0@mastodon.online

            @randahl @benroyce US threatened to take the islands by force if Denmark would not sell them. They were convinced that Germany would seize them and Denmark wouldn’t be able to defend them. Same argument they’re using with Greenland.

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            #19

            @mok0 @randahl

            yeah but that was a valid threat at the time

            who is going to take greenland today if not the usa?

            china?

            russia?

            canada?

            maybe paraguay?

            no one is

            except the usa

            so it's bullshit

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

              In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

              Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

              Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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              #20

              @randahl It's a document that DJT finds incovenient, and will probably ignore. It's another treaty he will break.

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                #21

                @randahl

                🎯

                Trump isn’t a man of honor, and that is the problem…

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                  In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                  Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                  Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                  #22

                  @randahl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYAahN1G8Y8

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                  • mok0@mastodon.onlineM mok0@mastodon.online

                    @randahl @benroyce US threatened to take the islands by force if Denmark would not sell them. They were convinced that Germany would seize them and Denmark wouldn’t be able to defend them. Same argument they’re using with Greenland.

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                    #23

                    @mok0 @randahl @benroyce cant they just offer it for tons of billions of billions? so they were technically willing to sell but u.s. cannot afford it?

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                    • utf_7@mastodon.socialU utf_7@mastodon.social

                      @mok0 @randahl @benroyce cant they just offer it for tons of billions of billions? so they were technically willing to sell but u.s. cannot afford it?

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                      #24

                      @utf_7 @mok0 @randahl

                      then the us would have just taken the virgin islands by force

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                        In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                        Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                        Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                        #25

                        @randahl ”Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.”

                        Is that the meeting about Greenland without Greenland being invited?

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                          In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                          Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                          Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                          #26

                          @randahl #PutinEpsteinTrump ?

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                            In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                            Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                            Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                            #27

                            @randahl There's an easy spin for trump et al to explain their ignoring the document:

                            Quote: United States of America will not object to the Danish Government extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland.

                            They'll just say Denmark has failed in extending their political and economic interests to the whole of Greenland and therefore it's down to the good ol' us of a to do the job for Greenland on Denmark's behalf. Simples!

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @utf_7 @mok0 @randahl

                              then the us would have just taken the virgin islands by force

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                              #28

                              @benroyce @utf_7 @randahl They actually threatened to do just that. Denmark was forced to sell, the US feared Germany would seize the islands and Denmark wouldn’t be able to defend them. Exactly the same argument Stephen Miller (Trump puppetmaster) is making today.

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                                In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                                Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                                Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                                #29

                                @randahl Denmark/Greenland should realize that this paper is worthless. Only strength and defiant escalation will work (IMHO). End the US base lease immediately, ask / force them to leave, deploy Danish or NATO troops to Greenland. Only by making it super expensive and risking loss of US troops will TACO back down. All just my opinion. You can't negotiate with him because he's not following any rules, just what's good for him and his cronies.

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                                • ahltorp@mastodon.nuA ahltorp@mastodon.nu

                                  @randahl ”Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.”

                                  Is that the meeting about Greenland without Greenland being invited?

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                                  #30

                                  @ahltorp @randahl

                                  Greenland is represented in the Danish parliament.

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                                  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                    This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                                    In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                                    Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                                    Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                                    #31

                                    @randahl Do you think a document like this matters to Trump, who is riding roughshod over the rule of law? Historically, I think any Native American or First Nations people would tell you that U.S. government agreements are not worth the paper they're written on.

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                                      In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                                      Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                                      Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                                      #32

                                      @randahl Dynamite. Even though he'll just march over it roughshod. Because he is IT and IT can do as IT pleases because IT is God Emperor of MAGAland.

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                                      • elcelio@mastodon.unoE elcelio@mastodon.uno

                                        @ahltorp @randahl

                                        Greenland is represented in the Danish parliament.

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                                        #33

                                        @elCelio @randahl Folketinget has two members that are elected by the Greenlandic people, but no representatives from the Greenland self-governance were invited, either from the Inatsisartut or the Naalakkersuisut, so ”Greenland” as an entity was not invited (even though you could argue that representatatives from the Greenlandic people were). This is remarkable.

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          This is the document, Trump does not want you to see.

                                          In 1916, under President Woodrow Wilson, the United States signed the purchase of the Virgin Islands from Denmark, in a convention in which the United States recognised Denmark's right to the whole of Greenland.

                                          Danish MP's of The Defence Committee will convene in the Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility at 18:00 to discuss the defence of Greenland.

                                          Full text: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/STATUTE-39/pdf/STATUTE-39-Pg1706.pdf#page=1

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                                          #34

                                          @randahl pretty sure there's a couple of deals with Indian tribes that preceded this and were worth just as much - ignore all deals and treaties with the US because they will whenever it favors them.

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