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  • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

    @su_liam @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

    To be fair to them, they were writing the constitution more than a century before Duverger was born. What's our excuse?

    I think the US sucks at reforming its constitution because its ppl have been persuaded that it's weird or wrong to be into politics. Now that politics is becoming literally and violently fatal to even quite privileged people in the US, I'm optimistic that this blasé attitude will change.

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    #162

    @eswag @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn Also, it is genuinely hard and a bit dangerous to alter the Constitution. It has to pass with 2/3 of each chamber of Congress, and ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures.

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    • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

      @benroyce @TCatInReality @grumble209 @Pepijn

      The trick is to remember that you voted for evil, and ask "why was I offered two flavours of shit sandwich?". In the US, the answer to that is, " because you didn't show up to the primaries".

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      #163

      @eswag @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn Can people who work really hard with two or three side hustles and not spending money on avocado toast and $1000 iPhones become billionaires?

      Probably - it's rare, but it can happen. Mostly, this line of rhetoric is made by the assholes at the top to reframe the problem of inequality and lack of social mobility from structural injustice onto personal responsibility. You're not a billionaire because just you're not hustling hard enough.

      This is a post about people voting in primaries.

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      • su_liam@mas.toS su_liam@mas.to

        @eswag @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn Also, it is genuinely hard and a bit dangerous to alter the Constitution. It has to pass with 2/3 of each chamber of Congress, and ratified by 3/4 of state legislatures.

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        #164

        @su_liam @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

        For sure, amending a constitution isn't something you do lightly. I think it should be possible to get an amendment like "corporations are not people, and money is not speech" through without breaking too many eggs.

        As for hard, it used to be done with the same thresholds.

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        • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

          @eswag @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn Can people who work really hard with two or three side hustles and not spending money on avocado toast and $1000 iPhones become billionaires?

          Probably - it's rare, but it can happen. Mostly, this line of rhetoric is made by the assholes at the top to reframe the problem of inequality and lack of social mobility from structural injustice onto personal responsibility. You're not a billionaire because just you're not hustling hard enough.

          This is a post about people voting in primaries.

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          #165

          @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

          The correct answer to that question is "fuck no!". Name a billionaire former hard working hustler. I bet you can't find even one.

          Unless you can find an integer percentage of the US population of them (i.e. a few million), any you do find are a rounding error, and the answer is still "fuck no!".

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          • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

            @su_liam @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

            For sure, amending a constitution isn't something you do lightly. I think it should be possible to get an amendment like "corporations are not people, and money is not speech" through without breaking too many eggs.

            As for hard, it used to be done with the same thresholds.

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            #166

            @eswag @su_liam @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn My brother, it took the most deadly war in US history to amend our Constitution so that humans from Africa were considered *mostly *human. That was 160 years ago not only have we not made it the rest of the way, but we're falling backwards.

            We're unable to amend our Constitution so that we consider women to have the same rights as men.

            Getting rich people and their financial instruments (corporations) to not run our government and our lives will be just as hard and likely just as bloody.

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            • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

              @eswag @su_liam @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn My brother, it took the most deadly war in US history to amend our Constitution so that humans from Africa were considered *mostly *human. That was 160 years ago not only have we not made it the rest of the way, but we're falling backwards.

              We're unable to amend our Constitution so that we consider women to have the same rights as men.

              Getting rich people and their financial instruments (corporations) to not run our government and our lives will be just as hard and likely just as bloody.

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              #167

              @grumble209 @su_liam @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

              The last one was done without a war in 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

              I agree that disenfranchising the oligarchy isn't going to be easy, but constitutional amendments have been done within the lifetimes of many (most?) living US citizens. Also, they've been done without violent havoc.

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @phl

                yup

                #projectIceworm

                the americans didn't tell the danes, they just set up a secret nuclear installation in #greenland, then abandoned it, and as the ice melts it's a pollution timebomb

                https://mastodon.social/@benroyce/115107527036142772

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                #168

                @benroyce @phl there's a reactor down there somewhere, entombed in the ice

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                • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                  @eswag @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn Can people who work really hard with two or three side hustles and not spending money on avocado toast and $1000 iPhones become billionaires?

                  Probably - it's rare, but it can happen. Mostly, this line of rhetoric is made by the assholes at the top to reframe the problem of inequality and lack of social mobility from structural injustice onto personal responsibility. You're not a billionaire because just you're not hustling hard enough.

                  This is a post about people voting in primaries.

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                  #169

                  @grumble209 @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                  It's a nonsense post, if you think it's about primaries.

                  The flaws of democracy are never fixed by less engagement in democratic processes.

                  Sure, we can argue people are time short - and what can we do to address that. But concluding that you abandon the democratic process instead is wildly illogical.

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                  • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

                    @grumble209 @su_liam @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

                    The last one was done without a war in 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

                    I agree that disenfranchising the oligarchy isn't going to be easy, but constitutional amendments have been done within the lifetimes of many (most?) living US citizens. Also, they've been done without violent havoc.

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                    #170

                    @eswag @grumble209 @su_liam @benroyce @Pepijn

                    That one took 203 years

                    Maybe not the best example of how the US Constitution can be amended without great difficulty.

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                    • eswag@dju.socialE eswag@dju.social

                      @grumble209 @su_liam @benroyce @TCatInReality @Pepijn

                      The last one was done without a war in 1992. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-seventh_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

                      I agree that disenfranchising the oligarchy isn't going to be easy, but constitutional amendments have been done within the lifetimes of many (most?) living US citizens. Also, they've been done without violent havoc.

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                      #171

                      @eswag @grumble209 @su_liam @benroyce @Pepijn

                      That one took 203 years

                      Maybe not the best example of how the US Constitution can be amended without great difficulty.

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                      • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                        @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn Harris probably wouldn't have sunk a bunch of boats and murdered their sailors before kidnapping Maduro and stealing Venezuela's oil, but Harris would still have supported Israel killing and starving Palestinians just like Trump does.

                        I'm too much of a pussy to look at a starving Palestinian orphan being expelled to Africa and say - hey, you have to understand I was voting *strategically*. 🤷

                        Instead, I get really, really pissed off at the party assholes who put me in this position for the sake of the convenience of their donors.

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                        #172

                        @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn "just like Trump does" is the tell on the bad-faith, both-sides BS here. When *any* support for a foreign intelligence-sharing allied state is falsely-equivalated to a formal pogrom and "Gaza-Riviera" - that's how you know the speaker is a unicorn-hunter divorced from reality

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                        • the5thcolumnist@mstdn.caT the5thcolumnist@mstdn.ca

                          @n1xnx @TCatInReality @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                          Mathematical logic

                          I can just subtract 5-5
                          I dont have to do
                          5-1
                          4-1
                          3-1
                          2-1
                          and 1-1

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                          #173

                          @TCatInReality @Pepijn @grumble209 @eswag @n1xnx @the5thColumnist @benroyce

                          I’ve never had the choice of -5 evil to vote for, but I do frequently have -1. The problem is usually getting enough of my neighbours to see and understand the assignment.

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                          • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                            @grumble209 @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                            It's a nonsense post, if you think it's about primaries.

                            The flaws of democracy are never fixed by less engagement in democratic processes.

                            Sure, we can argue people are time short - and what can we do to address that. But concluding that you abandon the democratic process instead is wildly illogical.

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                            #174

                            @TCatInReality @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn I fully believe that active engagement in the primary process can lead to incremental improvements in a functioning democracy.

                            But I have no confidence that the DNC and the GOP are going to let themselves be reformed by primaries here in the United States of America in the year 2026.

                            But primaries are like prayer as a cure for cancer - it works best when combined with surgery and chemo. You can vote in primaries all you want, and it will improve your mental health. But don't skimp on Class War.

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                            • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                              @TCatInReality @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn I fully believe that active engagement in the primary process can lead to incremental improvements in a functioning democracy.

                              But I have no confidence that the DNC and the GOP are going to let themselves be reformed by primaries here in the United States of America in the year 2026.

                              But primaries are like prayer as a cure for cancer - it works best when combined with surgery and chemo. You can vote in primaries all you want, and it will improve your mental health. But don't skimp on Class War.

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                              #175

                              @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                              the first thing they would tell you in class war 101 is to vote

                              because voting is just a tactic like any other in a broad repertoire of tactics. no better or worse than any other

                              even just a vote used as vandalism or sabotage

                              to have antipathy to voting is merely an emotional block. it's self-serving, trying to justify a bad decision

                              rationalizations not to vote are absurd

                              so instead of resisting the obvious, change your bad decision:

                              vote

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                              • grumble209@kolektiva.socialG grumble209@kolektiva.social

                                @TCatInReality @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn I fully believe that active engagement in the primary process can lead to incremental improvements in a functioning democracy.

                                But I have no confidence that the DNC and the GOP are going to let themselves be reformed by primaries here in the United States of America in the year 2026.

                                But primaries are like prayer as a cure for cancer - it works best when combined with surgery and chemo. You can vote in primaries all you want, and it will improve your mental health. But don't skimp on Class War.

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                                #176

                                @grumble209 @eswag @benroyce @Pepijn

                                Then delete or correct your "side hustle" post because you directly contradicted it.

                                If primaries are an important part (and not the only part) then your analogical attack on primaries completely leaves that out.

                                BTW, shifting metaphors is not a helpful way to have dialog. Smacks of bad faith.

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @grumble209 @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn

                                  the first thing they would tell you in class war 101 is to vote

                                  because voting is just a tactic like any other in a broad repertoire of tactics. no better or worse than any other

                                  even just a vote used as vandalism or sabotage

                                  to have antipathy to voting is merely an emotional block. it's self-serving, trying to justify a bad decision

                                  rationalizations not to vote are absurd

                                  so instead of resisting the obvious, change your bad decision:

                                  vote

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                                  #177

                                  @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                  👍

                                  Again, the Mamdani win (and AOC and others) show that primaries *and a very engaged populace* are all we need to win elections and take power.

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                                  • paneerakbari@mas.toP paneerakbari@mas.to

                                    @grumble209 @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn "just like Trump does" is the tell on the bad-faith, both-sides BS here. When *any* support for a foreign intelligence-sharing allied state is falsely-equivalated to a formal pogrom and "Gaza-Riviera" - that's how you know the speaker is a unicorn-hunter divorced from reality

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                                    #178

                                    @paneerakbari @benroyce @TCatInReality @eswag @Pepijn I'm sorry my unwillingness to cosign the bipartisan death machine of US foreign policy makes you think I'm divorced from reality. I'm not writing these toots to offend you.

                                    I'm curious if you've travelled much outside of the US? Because the only people I've ever met who believe that there is more than one side to how the US treats the world are people who've only lived in the US. My friends and coworkers in Europe and Asia never seem to take it seriously. God knows the military folks I've served with couldn't see much of a difference.

                                    But maybe it's like talking to a European about the subtle differences in baseball rules between the national and the american leagues? The rules are definitely not the same, but you have to be really into the game to appreciate those subtle differences.

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                                    • tcatinreality@mastodon.socialT tcatinreality@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                      👍

                                      Again, the Mamdani win (and AOC and others) show that primaries *and a very engaged populace* are all we need to win elections and take power.

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                                      #179

                                      @benroyce @grumble209 @eswag @Pepijn

                                      I'm still laughing at the thought that anyone believes in top down reform of the DNC (or GOP).

                                      Just ten seconds thought: the donors are getting what they want and the "DNC" is just made up of humans. Unless there are new donors, and/or a massive influx of progressive people, it is not going to change.

                                      Fortunately, the MAGA assault on the senses is waking up a lot of people and engaging them. I pray there is time.

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