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Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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    #33

    @sundogplanets If they want to put a server farm in orbit, how about at the L4 or L5 Lagrange points for the Earth-Moon system? They'd be in direct sunlight most of the time, reducing the need for batteries. Less impact on telescopes as well.

    For Elon's LLM, let's put it at L3 (Earth/Sun system), which would have some real benefits for the rest of us: with the sun in the way, it would be hard to "talk" to it.

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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      #34

      @sundogplanets

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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        #35

        @sundogplanets Is it possible that behind closed doors, Musk et al think Kessler syndrome will reverse climate change? Is that the level of myopic stupidity we could be dealing with here?

        I mean, the Epstein class do seem to sincerely believe that technology will somehow save *them*, even if billions of the rest of us are wiped out in the process. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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          #36

          @sundogplanets the scary part imho is all the people who are in a position to accept the implied valuation of these "AI datacentres" and effectively create funny money out of thin air.
          I think Elon would put those datacentres up there IF he could, despite consequences. I also think he knows he can't, but need to keep the party going and so... this.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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            #37

            @sundogplanets They might be overestimating the effects of a nuclear war.

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            • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

              @sundogplanets @paul_ipv6 I really don't believe this stupid plan is ever going to happen.

              Even if they can launch 1000 sats a week, it'll take 20 years (if none fall down). And that's not even taking into consideration the resources needed to build them.

              It's more Elon bluster, and just a way for him to get money out of gullible investors. Think Theranos.

              There is (unfortunately) plenty of credible schemes to fight.

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              #38

              @derickr @sundogplanets @paul_ipv6 That he is plotting it at all means he needs to be stopped. Halted. It's at least worth talking to reps about. What of Elon fails but he inspires a smarter, more efficient psycho that goes for it. If this is something they are threatening then it's something we should be trying to prevent.

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              • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

                @sundogplanets @paul_ipv6 I really don't believe this stupid plan is ever going to happen.

                Even if they can launch 1000 sats a week, it'll take 20 years (if none fall down). And that's not even taking into consideration the resources needed to build them.

                It's more Elon bluster, and just a way for him to get money out of gullible investors. Think Theranos.

                There is (unfortunately) plenty of credible schemes to fight.

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                #39

                @derickr @sundogplanets @paul_ipv6 But they will probably still launch hundreds of rockets. They need to, to pass the time until they have come up with next big thing to keep investors amused. Only then can they abandon their current hype carrier…

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                • smutmag@mstdn.socialS smutmag@mstdn.social

                  @derickr @sundogplanets @paul_ipv6 That he is plotting it at all means he needs to be stopped. Halted. It's at least worth talking to reps about. What of Elon fails but he inspires a smarter, more efficient psycho that goes for it. If this is something they are threatening then it's something we should be trying to prevent.

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                  #40

                  @smutmag @derickr @sundogplanets

                  the past also argues that he's good at scamming government funds from legit projects and science for his scams. we need to be sure our taxes aren't misused.

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                  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                    @smutmag @derickr @sundogplanets

                    the past also argues that he's good at scamming government funds from legit projects and science for his scams. we need to be sure our taxes aren't misused.

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                    #41

                    @paul_ipv6 @derickr @sundogplanets I'm talking strictly about what should be done when/if we get our country back, and through legislation. Something like the "Don't kill the earth with your horseshit hobbies" bill. I don't want trump doing anything about anything except marching into prison. Which is also what Elon should do if the people ever have representation again.

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                      #42

                      @sundogplanets

                      Well, nuclear winter is one way to combat global warming...

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                        #43

                        @sundogplanets finally, the plot of Fallout

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                        • sauc3@hachyderm.ioS sauc3@hachyderm.io

                          @sundogplanets

                          Why can't we have the future where we are led by scientists and not the stupidest assholes?

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                          #44

                          @sauc3 @sundogplanets https://www.medical-jokes.com/all-the-parts-of-the-body-argued-over-who-would-be-boss/

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                          • n_dimension@infosec.exchangeN n_dimension@infosec.exchange

                            @paul_ipv6 @sundogplanets

                            AiWinter is the secret solution to the "Cooking to death" climate collapse.

                            See? Broligarchs were right when they said AI fill fix #climatecollapse

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                            #45

                            @n_dimension @paul_ipv6 @sundogplanets So like, the result of this isn't a cooled down earth but a slightly less hot earth that's muggy as fuck and tastes like methamphetamine smoke, copper, and burning tires and looks like mars but with "fog".

                            Think Constantine and those hell scenes.

                            Better than totally melted I guess.

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                              ak_57@mastodon.social
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                              #46

                              @sundogplanets hi

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                                #47

                                @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Well, they are rockets so that makes sense.

                                Is the primary concern with nuclear pollution not the radioactive contaminants? Do satellites acquired induced radioactivity over their useful life on top of that?

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                                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                  Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                                  #48

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  https://theconversation.com/too-many-satellites-earths-orbit-is-on-track-for-a-catastrophe-but-we-can-stop-it-275430

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                                    #49

                                    @sundogplanets yep, that helps. 🤨🙄

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                                    • peterjriley2024@mastodon.socialP peterjriley2024@mastodon.social

                                      @sundogplanets

                                      https://theconversation.com/too-many-satellites-earths-orbit-is-on-track-for-a-catastrophe-but-we-can-stop-it-275430

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                                      #50

                                      @peterjriley2024 I am a co-author on that...

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                                      • lispi314@udongein.xyzL lispi314@udongein.xyz

                                        @sundogplanets@mastodon.social Well, they are rockets so that makes sense.

                                        Is the primary concern with nuclear pollution not the radioactive contaminants? Do satellites acquired induced radioactivity over their useful life on top of that?

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                                        #51

                                        @lispi314 This is purely looking at soot and particulates/aerosols, not radioactivity

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

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                                          #52

                                          @sundogplanets Had a recent chat with someone I know who knows a fair bit about this stuff. Their main points - "one of the dumbest ideas the AI bros have ever come up with," and that cooling these things would present huge challenges due to there being no conduction in the vacuum of space. "Heat budgeting is one of the most difficult parts of spacecraft design." Truly stupid times we live in.

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