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I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    It's not just the FBI, btw - MS accepts valid law enforcement request internationally. Also it's not just BitLocker.

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    @GossiTheDog What's amazing to me is how many people have sleepwalked into having their user profile synced to Microsoft's servers. Super bad idea for any number of reasons.

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    • jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ jesterchen@social.tchncs.de

      @niknukem Which doesn't help if the key is additionally and automatically synced to MS. You have a MS account to login, don't you? So it's easy to connect...

      And afaik the sync can only be deactivated using GPOs - but perhaps even this is no longer a possibility...

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      #10

      @jesterchen So is there peoof they sync the key even if you select sace as file? Yeah no MS account in windows. But guess most do use intune, than key is cloud based. Welcome back veracrypt. Xd

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      • jesterchen@social.tchncs.deJ jesterchen@social.tchncs.de

        @GossiTheDog I remember TrueCrypt and all of the discussions regarding the beginnings of VeraCrypt.

        Is VeraCrypt now finally decided to be a legal fork? Yeah, I know, nobody cares, but before I trust MS in this....

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        #11

        @jesterchen @GossiTheDog Try Cryptomator.

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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          #12

          @GossiTheDog

          Rob Braxman has been bitching about this for quite some time.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX3a-goiE2c

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          • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

            @GossiTheDog What's amazing to me is how many people have sleepwalked into having their user profile synced to Microsoft's servers. Super bad idea for any number of reasons.

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            @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog but Microslop says it "does not provide any government with our encryption keys or the ability to break our encryption". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/reports/government-requests/customer-data
            (And they seem to have stopped publishing the reports after the Orange Menace barged into office)...

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              It's not just the FBI, btw - MS accepts valid law enforcement request internationally. Also it's not just BitLocker.

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              #14

              @GossiTheDog Unfortunately, not *just* valid ones.

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                #15

                @GossiTheDog giving the current climate, this is sketchy as hell

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                  So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                  #16

                  @GossiTheDog Yep. Which is why I don't have a Microsoft account, don't back up recovery keys to the cloud, or use BitLocker in the first place.

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                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                    I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                    So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                    #17

                    @GossiTheDog
                    Bitlocker is only to guarantee that Microsoft's beak gets wet every time your data is stolen. To who is this news? Its been clear for years, great job "Forbes". Where news goes to get lobotomized...

                    One must be an utter buffoon with what we know today, to think Microsoft in any way has aligned interests with users. They don't.

                    MS has already betrayed you. They are not your friend.

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                      #18

                      @GossiTheDog bitlocker in all enterprise implementations I have seen always felt more like security theatre than actual security. Sure it was gonna keep a thief of opportunity out of your files, but anyone with more resources could get around it

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                      • jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.ptJ jt_rebelo@ciberlandia.pt

                        @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog but Microslop says it "does not provide any government with our encryption keys or the ability to break our encryption". https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/reports/government-requests/customer-data
                        (And they seem to have stopped publishing the reports after the Orange Menace barged into office)...

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                        #19

                        @jt_rebelo @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog it's important to note that the objection here is that users should not be encouraged to store their own encryption keys on a service provider, as that provider has a responsibility to comply with legal search warrants wherever it does business. Microsoft does not "directly" give anyone keys to data without such a warrant as a matter of policy.

                        @GossiTheDog is correct to argue that a) it shouldn't be made easy to default to the cloud and b) that ultimately, if you mean to encrypt then you likely mean to own those keys yourself. Don't put them in a service that must respond to legal instruments.

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                        • squillace@hachyderm.ioS squillace@hachyderm.io

                          @jt_rebelo @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog it's important to note that the objection here is that users should not be encouraged to store their own encryption keys on a service provider, as that provider has a responsibility to comply with legal search warrants wherever it does business. Microsoft does not "directly" give anyone keys to data without such a warrant as a matter of policy.

                          @GossiTheDog is correct to argue that a) it shouldn't be made easy to default to the cloud and b) that ultimately, if you mean to encrypt then you likely mean to own those keys yourself. Don't put them in a service that must respond to legal instruments.

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                          @jt_rebelo @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog the default for storing such things would be an encrypted version, per the Apple option.

                          We have no knowledge whether Apple or Google have ever given something out. I would not take that for a denial that they had.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                            So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                            #21

                            @GossiTheDog Several concerns added up to make me leave M$ last year. Good decision.

                            Happy and free, this is no concern of mine, and I will just enjoy the afternoon sun. Microsoft is history.

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                              So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                              #22

                              @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social don't keep your password on some server. always use a notebook if you can

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                              • squillace@hachyderm.ioS squillace@hachyderm.io

                                @jt_rebelo @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog the default for storing such things would be an encrypted version, per the Apple option.

                                We have no knowledge whether Apple or Google have ever given something out. I would not take that for a denial that they had.

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                                #23

                                @squillace well, it's part of how Windows works with Microsoft (online) accounts at least since Windows 8.1 (I had to recover an encryption key to help someone reset their Surface device and I got it through their user account, a Microslop support rep back then told me that they couldn't help if there wasn't a cloud backup, the key wasn't accessible to the user without it). So users don't really have a choice in the matter (no access to key at all, or have it on Microslop's cloud).
                                @Infoseepage @GossiTheDog

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                                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                  I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                  So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                  #24

                                  @GossiTheDog I don’t understand putting your trust in black box proprietary encryption software when TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt exist and are older than BitLocker by 3 years, stupid doesn’t even begin to describe it.

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    It's not just the FBI, btw - MS accepts valid law enforcement request internationally. Also it's not just BitLocker.

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                                    #25

                                    @GossiTheDog yes true

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                      So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                      #26

                                      @GossiTheDog am I a Luddite if I mention that paper can get tossed into a fireplace or shredded?

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                        So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                        #27

                                        @GossiTheDog there's no secure in slop. Never has been.

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                                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                          I was wondering when a reporter would uncover this.

                                          So BitLocker is super secure, right? Well... BitLocker recovery keys are backed up to Microsoft's Cloud - and they give them out to law enforcement on request. Using the BitLocker recovery key, you can just unlock the device without a PIN etc.
                                          https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2026/01/22/microsoft-gave-fbi-keys-to-unlock-bitlocker-encrypted-data/

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                                          #28

                                          @GossiTheDog Never, ever trust any company to secure your secrets. Use local storage like Proton to keep it on your own devices, under your own control

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