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  • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

    RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

    Two things:
    1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

    2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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    #39

    @Ashedryden oh yeah, no. I was literally just thinking about how I've never really gotten the hang of Discord. The signal to noise ratio is just so far off, I just kinda forget it exists.

    I'll definitely be peacing out on that one.

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    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

      Two things:
      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

      kanamauna@sauropods.winK This user is from outside of this forum
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      #40

      @Ashedryden

      With all that is always happening, at this point I assume state actors are pushing it.

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      • kanamauna@sauropods.winK kanamauna@sauropods.win

        @Ashedryden

        With all that is always happening, at this point I assume state actors are pushing it.

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        #41
        @KanaMauna @Ashedryden "State actor" is a peculiar way of describing the legislative body of a country, but it isn't wrong.
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        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

          Two things:
          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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          #42

          @Ashedryden

          I think for a lot of us this is already the case that we just don’t computer the way the majority do: we don’t use the same OS, applications, browsers, chat apps, social networks, search engines, media, or even read the same news.

          We interact with corporate silos through sock puppets. Which ID laws will close that loop. And we’ll be forced to decide if we want to keep a prescience on that side of the wall at all.

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          • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

            RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

            Two things:
            1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

            2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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            #43

            @Ashedryden if its done right they will be using federation with an identity provider whom people do trust, but I doubt that will happen as identity in itself = $$$ in the marketing world.

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            • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

              RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

              Two things:
              1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

              2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

              cenbe@techhub.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              #44

              @Ashedryden But why on god's green earth would you want to use Discord?

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              • kanamauna@sauropods.winK kanamauna@sauropods.win

                @Ashedryden

                With all that is always happening, at this point I assume state actors are pushing it.

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                #45

                @KanaMauna @Ashedryden
                Thats quite sure, states are either already fascist or at least having actors preparing that way, making sure that people are anywhere ever identified is very important for them

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                • netraven@hear-me.socialN netraven@hear-me.social

                  @Ashedryden I wish people could of ALWAYS seen this coming.

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                  #46

                  @Netraven @Ashedryden those with so-called "Cassandra Syndrome" could have warned of this, but are, alas, cursed with being ignored.
                  #actuallyautistic @autistics

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                  • mochabeau@infosec.exchangeM mochabeau@infosec.exchange

                    @Ashedryden teamspeak is great for voice, but someone NEEDS to make a better alternative for chatting. i haven't found a platform that works nearly as well as discord, and it sucks.

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                    #47

                    @mochabeau @Ashedryden Agreed, as to the need for a better alternative, however the "QOS rules" conundrum is very difficult to solve:

                    https://autistics.life/@d1/116024756035274849

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                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                      Two things:
                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                      #48

                      @Ashedryden Fully agree with you on 2.
                      As for two-tier internet - ever since some clever clogs came up with the magic word "premium", segregation was born. Not too many complaints neither, looks like.

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                      • d1@autistics.lifeD d1@autistics.life

                        @mochabeau @Ashedryden Agreed, as to the need for a better alternative, however the "QOS rules" conundrum is very difficult to solve:

                        https://autistics.life/@d1/116024756035274849

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                        #49

                        @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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                        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                          Two things:
                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                          #50

                          @Ashedryden

                          And someone is going to make a random identity generator page of any country you choose and random faces of different poses. Complete with random lists of where you went to school, first pet, etc, in a printable fact page. What are they going to do, try and verify?

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                          • mochabeau@infosec.exchangeM mochabeau@infosec.exchange

                            @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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                            #51

                            @mochabeau @Ashedryden well, maybe #Zulip? Or #DeltaChat, if you really want end-to-end encryption of group chats (but no control of roles)? #XMPP also has good group delegation, but the #OMEMO encryption can have less reliable delivery in groups, with various members disappearing for spells of time.

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                            • mochabeau@infosec.exchangeM mochabeau@infosec.exchange

                              @d1 @Ashedryden is that an issue for chat, though? i got voice calls down great, its the roles and level of categorization over messages is what i miss often

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                              #52

                              @mochabeau @Ashedryden as to teamspeak, I would personally try to find something #OpenSource

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                              • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                Two things:
                                1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                #53

                                @Ashedryden You can still chat by typing without the video on IRC.

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                                • koen_hufkens@mastodon.socialK koen_hufkens@mastodon.social

                                  @Ashedryden Someone should make a biometric randomization app already, which takes your likeness and then change the core face metrics randomly.

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                                  #54

                                  @koen_hufkens @Ashedryden bio-obfuscation, basically a deepfake where the end face is ai generated.

                                  A pretty good idea.
                                  The hardest part is doing it in a undetectable way (catching the camera feed and changing it before it reaches the requesting app)

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                                  • retech@defcon.socialR retech@defcon.social

                                    @Ashedryden What protections do we have as users? None. I'll willingly go into the dark over this. Eventually I'll have to use pigeons and smoke signals to communicate with the world.

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                                    #55

                                    @retech @Ashedryden

                                    Can't rely on pigeons either...

                                    https://birdsarentreal.com/pages/faq

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                                    • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                      RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                      Two things:
                                      1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                      2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                      #56

                                      @Ashedryden

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                                      • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                        RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                        Two things:
                                        1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                        2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                        #57

                                        @Ashedryden @wellingtonrock @verge

                                        My initial feeling that someone simply wants to kill such platforms entirely.

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                                        • ashedryden@xoxo.zoneA ashedryden@xoxo.zone

                                          RE: https://mastodon.social/@verge/116041069446538092

                                          Two things:
                                          1. We are creating a two-tiered internet that will see people willing to give up their IDs having one experience while those who can’t, won’t, or don’t have them missing out on those experiences or being outright excluded from whole areas of the web

                                          2. Why you would be willing to give up your ID to web services that have such poor security in a time when identity is being weaponized by state actors is beyond me

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                                          #58

                                          @Ashedryden It's more likely I'll be giving up the services that require these things.

                                          Some will be difficult, of course, but if enough of us do walk away will that have an impact?

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