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The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

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  • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

    The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

    This should not happen.
    You should be angry about this.
    You should refuse to be controlled.
    You should resist.

    unusnemo@friendica.rogueproject.orgU This user is from outside of this forum
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    #22

    @Em0nM4stodon

    I have no dog in the race, so to speak. As I have not used a proprietary OS in decades. I feel for those that thought I was naive for preferring the 'nix environment.

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    • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

      The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

      This should not happen.
      You should be angry about this.
      You should refuse to be controlled.
      You should resist.

      pip@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @Em0nM4stodon

      Feels like a good time to link to the Permacomputing site:

      https://permacomputing.net/

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      • M mike805@noc.social

        @vervain @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Likewise. I liked the Honda Accord feature wise, but it has a cellular modem you cannot turn off.

        I asked dealers, independent shops, search engines, and AI if there is a hack or workaround. So far nothing.

        If my car got wrecked tomorrow, I might get a 10th generation (2022) because some of the lower tier ones do not have a built in modem. I would just not install any apps and hang a Garmin for navigation.

        mikal@sfba.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @mike805 @vervain @Em0nM4stodon

        This is something that truly amazes me. Why isn't car hacking a thing? I mean FFS, if corn farmers can share cracked codes for John Deere tractors that allow them to work on them and program them themselves, you'd think all the privacy oriented tech nerds would have figured out how to crack car codes so that we could turn off all the surveillance or tweak the settings to our liking.

        Till that happens, I'm sticking with my 2012 non-telematics truck.

        I spent this morning replacing some of my house's original cracked and corroded cast-iron drain pipe with modern, standard ABS. This is a very useful skill when you need it! But I would readily swap it out for the "car hacker nerd" skill module if I could.

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        • swordgeek@mstdn.caS swordgeek@mstdn.ca

          @Em0nM4stodon I just bought a new computer.

          I chose the components, just like I did in 1991.
          I installed the OS, just like I did in 1991.
          I dealt with the glitches, the app problems, the 'issues' mostly like I did in 1991.
          My computer is tellinh the vendor *almost* nothing, kind of like it did in 1991.

          But I'm a seasoned geek, and it's taken me three days to get a *mostly* functional system working *mostly* the way I want without selling my favourite underwear colour to someone.

          In a just universe, the default would be "here's your tool, it works for you" without this much bullshit.

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          #25

          @Em0nM4stodon @swordgeek Maybe it is time to bring back the install parties

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          • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

            @mike805 @vervain @Em0nM4stodon

            This is something that truly amazes me. Why isn't car hacking a thing? I mean FFS, if corn farmers can share cracked codes for John Deere tractors that allow them to work on them and program them themselves, you'd think all the privacy oriented tech nerds would have figured out how to crack car codes so that we could turn off all the surveillance or tweak the settings to our liking.

            Till that happens, I'm sticking with my 2012 non-telematics truck.

            I spent this morning replacing some of my house's original cracked and corroded cast-iron drain pipe with modern, standard ABS. This is a very useful skill when you need it! But I would readily swap it out for the "car hacker nerd" skill module if I could.

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            #26

            @Mikal @vervain @Em0nM4stodon People do all sorts of car hacks. Audio, performance, appearance, fancy lighting and gauges.

            Why no privacy hacks? Some people claim to have pulled fuses or antennas, but where is the model specific howto?

            The telematics in the Accord is basically Android. I spent some time playing with it (out of Turo) and I doubt it's as secure as the average smartphone.

            I would happily pay quite a bit to anyone who could defang that thing, because then I could have a new car.

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            • raymondpierrel3@aus.socialR raymondpierrel3@aus.social

              @Lamb
              Refurbished laptop running Linux and FOSS is the answer. Ditch Apple, Microsoft and Google altogether
              Lenovo and Dell come shipped with Linux distros these days.

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              #27

              @RaymondPierreL3 True. I started my journey on FOSS over 5 years ago, currently enjoying on my desktop and on my 2016 MSI laptop, and rocking a degoogled fairphone 4. So far I've help my parents and two friends to ditch windows as well

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              • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.

                This should not happen.
                You should be angry about this.
                You should refuse to be controlled.
                You should resist.

                iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @Em0nM4stodon You are so right. In the past we bought a computer and the softeare we used for our purposes. Now we don't own most software and are constantly manipulated and captured by big tech and subscriptions. We have lost control of our own space. Now we are force fed with stuff we don't want or need because so much is now subscription based and no longer owned and controlled by us.

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                • admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com

                  @Em0nM4stodon They've been working on that since ~1976 when they realized how much money could be made through that control...and yes we should all be pissed.

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                  #29

                  @admin @Em0nM4stodon exactly right, as that was the point at which Bill Gates realized computing could be exploited and destroyed by capitalism.

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                  • chrispblair@infosec.exchangeC chrispblair@infosec.exchange

                    @gruby I think most people would be surprised at how much better Linux runs. Aside from a few fixable driver issues, Linux is a smoother workstation. I tried Windows again for five minutes, and I was annoyed within thirty seconds.

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                    #30

                    @chrispblair in the current state of things I have to agree wirh you. Windows, by default, installs software that is unnecessary and, in some cases, difficult to remove. Linux is just necessary stuff and if you want to remove it... go ahead.

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                    • iveyline@mastodon.nzI iveyline@mastodon.nz

                      @Em0nM4stodon You are so right. In the past we bought a computer and the softeare we used for our purposes. Now we don't own most software and are constantly manipulated and captured by big tech and subscriptions. We have lost control of our own space. Now we are force fed with stuff we don't want or need because so much is now subscription based and no longer owned and controlled by us.

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                      #31

                      @Iveyline @Em0nM4stodon Only if you let them.
                      There are many versions of Linux to choose from, some of which are easier to use than the mess that Windows and Mac have become.

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                      • M mike805@noc.social

                        @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:

                        Replaceable batteries
                        Headphone jacks
                        Ability to install software from anywhere
                        Unified messaging
                        No app stores

                        The rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.

                        I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.

                        Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.

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                        #32

                        @mike805 @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon
                        Cars are surprisingly easy to fix, and the older they are the easier it is. You can easily find manuals to service and even repair cars, but you'll struggle to find such good info on most other things. Start by servicing your car yourself and go from there.

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