The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.
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The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.
This should not happen.
You should be angry about this.
You should refuse to be controlled.
You should resist. -
@vervain @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Likewise. I liked the Honda Accord feature wise, but it has a cellular modem you cannot turn off.
I asked dealers, independent shops, search engines, and AI if there is a hack or workaround. So far nothing.
If my car got wrecked tomorrow, I might get a 10th generation (2022) because some of the lower tier ones do not have a built in modem. I would just not install any apps and hang a Garmin for navigation.
@mike805 @vervain @Em0nM4stodon
This is something that truly amazes me. Why isn't car hacking a thing? I mean FFS, if corn farmers can share cracked codes for John Deere tractors that allow them to work on them and program them themselves, you'd think all the privacy oriented tech nerds would have figured out how to crack car codes so that we could turn off all the surveillance or tweak the settings to our liking.
Till that happens, I'm sticking with my 2012 non-telematics truck.
I spent this morning replacing some of my house's original cracked and corroded cast-iron drain pipe with modern, standard ABS. This is a very useful skill when you need it! But I would readily swap it out for the "car hacker nerd" skill module if I could.
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@Em0nM4stodon I just bought a new computer.
I chose the components, just like I did in 1991.
I installed the OS, just like I did in 1991.
I dealt with the glitches, the app problems, the 'issues' mostly like I did in 1991.
My computer is tellinh the vendor *almost* nothing, kind of like it did in 1991.But I'm a seasoned geek, and it's taken me three days to get a *mostly* functional system working *mostly* the way I want without selling my favourite underwear colour to someone.
In a just universe, the default would be "here's your tool, it works for you" without this much bullshit.
@Em0nM4stodon @swordgeek Maybe it is time to bring back the install parties
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@mike805 @vervain @Em0nM4stodon
This is something that truly amazes me. Why isn't car hacking a thing? I mean FFS, if corn farmers can share cracked codes for John Deere tractors that allow them to work on them and program them themselves, you'd think all the privacy oriented tech nerds would have figured out how to crack car codes so that we could turn off all the surveillance or tweak the settings to our liking.
Till that happens, I'm sticking with my 2012 non-telematics truck.
I spent this morning replacing some of my house's original cracked and corroded cast-iron drain pipe with modern, standard ABS. This is a very useful skill when you need it! But I would readily swap it out for the "car hacker nerd" skill module if I could.
@Mikal @vervain @Em0nM4stodon People do all sorts of car hacks. Audio, performance, appearance, fancy lighting and gauges.
Why no privacy hacks? Some people claim to have pulled fuses or antennas, but where is the model specific howto?
The telematics in the Accord is basically Android. I spent some time playing with it (out of Turo) and I doubt it's as secure as the average smartphone.
I would happily pay quite a bit to anyone who could defang that thing, because then I could have a new car.
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@Lamb
Refurbished laptop running Linux and FOSS is the answer. Ditch Apple, Microsoft and Google altogether
Lenovo and Dell come shipped with Linux distros these days.@RaymondPierreL3 True. I started my journey on FOSS over 5 years ago, currently enjoying
on my desktop and 
on my 2016 MSI laptop, and rocking a degoogled fairphone 4. So far I've help my parents and two friends to ditch windows as well -
The control of the computer is getting shifted from you, who bought the computer, to the seller of the computer.
This should not happen.
You should be angry about this.
You should refuse to be controlled.
You should resist.@Em0nM4stodon You are so right. In the past we bought a computer and the softeare we used for our purposes. Now we don't own most software and are constantly manipulated and captured by big tech and subscriptions. We have lost control of our own space. Now we are force fed with stuff we don't want or need because so much is now subscription based and no longer owned and controlled by us.
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@Em0nM4stodon They've been working on that since ~1976 when they realized how much money could be made through that control...and yes we should all be pissed.
@admin @Em0nM4stodon exactly right, as that was the point at which Bill Gates realized computing could be exploited and destroyed by capitalism.
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@gruby I think most people would be surprised at how much better Linux runs. Aside from a few fixable driver issues, Linux is a smoother workstation. I tried Windows again for five minutes, and I was annoyed within thirty seconds.
@chrispblair in the current state of things I have to agree wirh you. Windows, by default, installs software that is unnecessary and, in some cases, difficult to remove. Linux is just necessary stuff and if you want to remove it... go ahead.
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@Em0nM4stodon You are so right. In the past we bought a computer and the softeare we used for our purposes. Now we don't own most software and are constantly manipulated and captured by big tech and subscriptions. We have lost control of our own space. Now we are force fed with stuff we don't want or need because so much is now subscription based and no longer owned and controlled by us.
@Iveyline @Em0nM4stodon Only if you let them.
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@Mikal @Em0nM4stodon Apple is overwhelmingly the one that did this to the tech industry. If the iPhone had never existed we would still have:
Replaceable batteries
Headphone jacks
Ability to install software from anywhere
Unified messaging
No app storesThe rest of the industry only went that route because Apple got away with it.
I got a Black Friday laptop and went fully to Linux.
Now what do I do when my car breaks? I went car shopping in 2025 and aborted because of hostile antifeatures.
@mike805 @Mikal @Em0nM4stodon
Cars are surprisingly easy to fix, and the older they are the easier it is. You can easily find manuals to service and even repair cars, but you'll struggle to find such good info on most other things. Start by servicing your car yourself and go from there. -
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