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  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

    Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

    For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

    Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

    https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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    #23

    @mttaggart We won't violate your privacy because we are already violating your privacy!

    Now please don't talk about our data breach.

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    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

      Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

      For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

      Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

      https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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      #24

      @mttaggart How is determining someone's age with "high confidence" useful?

      I mean, how high is it?

      I can determine someone's age with "high confidence" just by asking them about it.

      Because most people don't lie.

      Surely Age Verification is not that trivial.

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

        For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

        Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

        https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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        #25

        @mttaggart Yeah that’s much better 🤦🏻‍♀️

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        • jgivoni@mastodon.socialJ jgivoni@mastodon.social

          @mttaggart How is determining someone's age with "high confidence" useful?

          I mean, how high is it?

          I can determine someone's age with "high confidence" just by asking them about it.

          Because most people don't lie.

          Surely Age Verification is not that trivial.

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          #26

          @mttaggart It's like your bank asking you what your name is before handing you (someone else's) money.

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          • mahryekuh@hachyderm.ioM mahryekuh@hachyderm.io

            @mttaggart On a more serious note, I could imagine them skipping age verification for accounts of a certain age. For example, unless someone created an account when they were 8, then a 10-year-old account would probably belong to an adult.

            But other than that, they will surely feed everything to a big AI and have their fun with it.

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            #27

            @mahryekuh "Here, kid, I want you to have this heirloom account that was once created by your great-grandfather. Thanks to the grandfather clause, it's exempt from all further verification!"

            @mttaggart

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            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

              Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

              For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

              Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

              https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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              spacelifeform@infosec.exchange
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              #28

              @mttaggart

              The bot accounts are pre-approved.

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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                #29

                @mttaggart

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                • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                  Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                  For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                  Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                  https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                  #30

                  @mttaggart congrats discord adopters, you're AI training corpus has really helped... I dunno... billionaires?

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                  • odr_k4tana@infosec.exchangeO odr_k4tana@infosec.exchange

                    @mttaggart how else would they make money? Not that I want to defend data selling at all, I hate it with a passion, but at some point we need to be asking ourselves what exactly it is we are expecting from for-profit companies.

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                    #31

                    @mttaggart @odr_k4tana it's become clear that social and community building internet services cannot be ran by for profit companies. It doesn't work

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                    • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                      Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                      For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                      Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                      https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                      #32

                      @mttaggart
                      There is only one answer to discord in my opinion " GOODBEYE "👋

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                      • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

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                        @mttaggart

                        And none of this so-called age inference is actually necessary for verifying someone's age. So I think the cynical assumption---that their actual goal is to collect private information and use it against us---is justified.

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                        #33

                        @mttaggart @BlueDot there is no way to implement a discrimination system (which us what this all is) without identifying people. It either requires your ID or something directly and nonprivatly traceable to it, or can be easily circumvented by someone lending their ID to someone without one.

                        When you propose these "solutions" you're legitimizing the whole system. Don't do that!

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                        • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
                          @mttaggart so if kids want to be classified as adults they just need to say stuff like "my wife" in chat?
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                          #34

                          @mttaggart @feld doesn't work in red states, being a teen is no guarantee you're not married there

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                          • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                            Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                            For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                            Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                            https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                            #35

                            @mttaggart so they decide a user is an adult, when they start acting adult enough.

                            *that's* never been a sketchy justification for abuse, nooooooo...

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                            • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                              Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                              For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                              Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                              https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                              #36

                              @mttaggart

                              To late Discord. To Late... 🤨

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                              • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                @mttaggart @feld doesn't work in red states, being a teen is no guarantee you're not married there

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                                #37
                                @fluffykittycat @mttaggart surely they can combine it with geoip lookups 🙂

                                alternatively just say something about your 16 year old child -- no way you can be under 18 and have a 16 year old kid
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                                • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
                                  @mttaggart so if kids want to be classified as adults they just need to say stuff like "my wife" in chat?
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                                  #38
                                  @feld @mttaggart There's one positive in that. Kids will learn to speak and write like adults more quickly.
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                                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                    Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                                    For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                                    Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                                    https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                                    #39

                                    @mttaggart lol i geniuely would like to see stats of 18y accounts (but i dont have mine glass ball running to peak into future) getting flagged anyway by their allegedly glass ball powered ai verification process...

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                                    • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                      @mttaggart @odr_k4tana it's become clear that social and community building internet services cannot be ran by for profit companies. It doesn't work

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                                      #40

                                      @fluffykittycat @mttaggart yes, unless you're going full Saruman

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                                      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                                        Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                                        For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                                        Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                                        https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                                        #41

                                        @mttaggart

                                        In addition to your age, they are also estimating your gender.

                                        You can check for yourself. Here’s how.

                                        https://beige.party/@hardly/116054884964919471

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                                        • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                                          @AAKL @mttaggart
                                          I guess companies may be hoping to prevent more effective legislation than Australia’s total ban on kids internet usage

                                          Which kids are totally walking right past and getting straight to the adult content (unintended consequences anyone?)
                                          https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/feb/05/teens-experience-australia-social-media-ban

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                                          #42

                                          @AccordionBruce @AAKL @mttaggart "I have some adult friends who I regularly visit in person to watch videos I'm not allowed to see" also doesn't sound very … safe.

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