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Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

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  • bluedot@left-bank.netB bluedot@left-bank.net

    RE: https://left-bank.net/@BlueDot/116053101957177322

    @mttaggart

    And none of this so-called age inference is actually necessary for verifying someone's age. So I think the cynical assumption---that their actual goal is to collect private information and use it against us---is justified.

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    #33

    @mttaggart @BlueDot there is no way to implement a discrimination system (which us what this all is) without identifying people. It either requires your ID or something directly and nonprivatly traceable to it, or can be easily circumvented by someone lending their ID to someone without one.

    When you propose these "solutions" you're legitimizing the whole system. Don't do that!

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    • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
      @mttaggart so if kids want to be classified as adults they just need to say stuff like "my wife" in chat?
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      #34

      @mttaggart @feld doesn't work in red states, being a teen is no guarantee you're not married there

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      • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

        Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

        For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

        Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

        https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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        #35

        @mttaggart so they decide a user is an adult, when they start acting adult enough.

        *that's* never been a sketchy justification for abuse, nooooooo...

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        • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

          Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

          For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

          Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

          https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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          #36

          @mttaggart

          To late Discord. To Late... 🤨

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          • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

            @mttaggart @feld doesn't work in red states, being a teen is no guarantee you're not married there

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            #37
            @fluffykittycat @mttaggart surely they can combine it with geoip lookups 🙂

            alternatively just say something about your 16 year old child -- no way you can be under 18 and have a 16 year old kid
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            • feld@friedcheese.usF feld@friedcheese.us
              @mttaggart so if kids want to be classified as adults they just need to say stuff like "my wife" in chat?
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              #38
              @feld @mttaggart There's one positive in that. Kids will learn to speak and write like adults more quickly.
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              • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                #39

                @mttaggart lol i geniuely would like to see stats of 18y accounts (but i dont have mine glass ball running to peak into future) getting flagged anyway by their allegedly glass ball powered ai verification process...

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                • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                  @mttaggart @odr_k4tana it's become clear that social and community building internet services cannot be ran by for profit companies. It doesn't work

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                  #40

                  @fluffykittycat @mttaggart yes, unless you're going full Saruman

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                  • mttaggart@infosec.exchangeM mttaggart@infosec.exchange

                    Discord claims "most users" will never go through an age verification process because they're already monitoring your behavior.

                    For the majority of adult users, we will be able to confirm your age group using information we already have. We use age prediction to determine, with high confidence, when a user is an adult. This allows many adults to access age-appropriate features without completing an explicit age check.

                    Gotta say, constant behavior analysis is not the warm and fuzzy blanket they seem to think it is.

                    https://discord.com/safety/how-discord-is-building-safer-experiences-for-teens

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                    #41

                    @mttaggart

                    In addition to your age, they are also estimating your gender.

                    You can check for yourself. Here’s how.

                    https://beige.party/@hardly/116054884964919471

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                    • accordionbruce@mastodon.socialA accordionbruce@mastodon.social

                      @AAKL @mttaggart
                      I guess companies may be hoping to prevent more effective legislation than Australia’s total ban on kids internet usage

                      Which kids are totally walking right past and getting straight to the adult content (unintended consequences anyone?)
                      https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2026/feb/05/teens-experience-australia-social-media-ban

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                      #42

                      @AccordionBruce @AAKL @mttaggart "I have some adult friends who I regularly visit in person to watch videos I'm not allowed to see" also doesn't sound very … safe.

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