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  • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

    Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

    At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

    dave2022@mastodonapp.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @dan Does it have a web cam inside? Hackers might be able to steal all your dirty secrets?

    I've always wanted to watch my plates get cleaned whist I'm out 🤣

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    • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

      @dan
      - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
      - "Why is on the internet?"
      - "To download software updates!"
      - "Why does it need software updates?"
      - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
      - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
      - "Because it's on the internet!"

      grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @someone_else @dan To be fair, being able to use my phone to start it or stop it or check if it's running, even when I'm out, is pretty useful.

      Maybe I had set it to start at 12:00, but my house runs through solar and I know the dishwasher uses a lot of power, and now at 11:50 I see it's suddenly gone super overcast and I check my inverter (which is also Internet-connected) and I see it's currently only getting in like 140W where I would've expected 2400W, so I want to abort the timer that starts the dishwasher (or if the dishwasher is CURRENTLY running, I want to stop it immediately). 🤷‍♂️

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      • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

        Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

        At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

        mcwabbit@tenforward.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #16

        @dan Yet...

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        • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

          Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

          At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

          eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @dan Dishwasher: "Can't run now. Not full enough".

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          • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

            @dan
            - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
            - "Why is on the internet?"
            - "To download software updates!"
            - "Why does it need software updates?"
            - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
            - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
            - "Because it's on the internet!"

            8472@norden.social8 This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @someone_else @dan https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/i-wont-connect-my-dishwasher-your-stupid-cloud/

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            • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

              @dan
              - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
              - "Why is on the internet?"
              - "To download software updates!"
              - "Why does it need software updates?"
              - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
              - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
              - "Because it's on the internet!"

              peritia@alovely.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @someone_else
              https://infosec.exchange/@someone_else/116095784488701956

              This is a little the case with everything these days.

              Why did we normalize putting everything online?

              Answer:

              Cause that way i can push an "update" to make it not work anymore once i sold enough of insert product here
              That way they have to buy my new Product

              any other answer is a blatant lie change my mind!

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              • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                @someone_else @dan To be fair, being able to use my phone to start it or stop it or check if it's running, even when I'm out, is pretty useful.

                Maybe I had set it to start at 12:00, but my house runs through solar and I know the dishwasher uses a lot of power, and now at 11:50 I see it's suddenly gone super overcast and I check my inverter (which is also Internet-connected) and I see it's currently only getting in like 140W where I would've expected 2400W, so I want to abort the timer that starts the dishwasher (or if the dishwasher is CURRENTLY running, I want to stop it immediately). 🤷‍♂️

                silberwoelfin@chaos.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan Be realistic. When are you actually micromanaging that stuff so precisely? I'd wager, never. Instead, you have an automation set up somewhere that does this automatically for you.
                There is no actual technical reason why that "somewhere" would have to be in the "cloud". It should be in your own home, on your own local network, under your control. And if you really do want to check in on anything from outside, use a VPN to connect to your home network.

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                • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                  @dan
                  - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                  - "Why is on the internet?"
                  - "To download software updates!"
                  - "Why does it need software updates?"
                  - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                  - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                  - "Because it's on the internet!"

                  fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21
                  @someone_else
                  Hey, bist du dir bewusst, dass dein Anzeigename "8941 usw" für Nutzende eines Screenreaders und einer Braillezeile sehr anstrengend wahrzunehmen ist?

                  Was soll die Zeichenkette überhaupt bedeuten?
                  Kannst du nicht vielleicht einen anderen kurzen Namen verwenden?
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                  • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                    @dan
                    - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                    - "Why is on the internet?"
                    - "To download software updates!"
                    - "Why does it need software updates?"
                    - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                    - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                    - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                    #22

                    @someone_else @dan So it can look at dishwasher porn

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                    • fasnix@fe.disroot.orgF fasnix@fe.disroot.org
                      @someone_else
                      Hey, bist du dir bewusst, dass dein Anzeigename "8941 usw" für Nutzende eines Screenreaders und einer Braillezeile sehr anstrengend wahrzunehmen ist?

                      Was soll die Zeichenkette überhaupt bedeuten?
                      Kannst du nicht vielleicht einen anderen kurzen Namen verwenden?
                      someone_else@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @fasnix
                      Hi
                      Nein das war mir nicht bewusst.
                      War aber auch nicht mein Ziel.
                      eine UUID/GUID ist nur mMn eine schöne und auch zufällige art eine eindeutige und trotzdem nicht über andere Dienste zuordenbare Identität zu wählen im Internet.

                      Ob ich meinen Namen deswegen ändere muss ich noch abwägen.

                      Ein "nicht screanreader relevant" flag wäre nett. oder ein "screnreade lesen bitte einfach nur random_UUID" oder so...

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                      • silberwoelfin@chaos.socialS silberwoelfin@chaos.social

                        @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan Be realistic. When are you actually micromanaging that stuff so precisely? I'd wager, never. Instead, you have an automation set up somewhere that does this automatically for you.
                        There is no actual technical reason why that "somewhere" would have to be in the "cloud". It should be in your own home, on your own local network, under your control. And if you really do want to check in on anything from outside, use a VPN to connect to your home network.

                        grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #24

                        @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan My dishwasher isn't internet-connected. 🙂

                        But I check my inverter while I'm out. All the time. And I switch it over to AC First if the sun disappears because I don't want the battery running dead.

                        I also check my home camera system when I'm out... Fairly often. Particular when we're away for long periods of time, and I want to check on my dog.

                        I also use my Google Home app from the car, to switch on the outside lights when we're driving home late at night.

                        I could set up a VPN at home and make sure I connect to it from my phone, but that would require installing servers at home and finding software and constant tinkering... which, to be honest, I used to love doing, I could spend hours on that sort of thing, but as I get older, more and more, I'm wanting stuff to just... work.

                        I'm capable of troubleshooting when it doesn't, and I'm not completely helpless like so many non-technical people, but I'd rather not have to spend all day, every day, troubleshooting.

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                        • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                          @dan
                          - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                          - "Why is on the internet?"
                          - "To download software updates!"
                          - "Why does it need software updates?"
                          - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                          - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                          - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                          #25

                          @someone_else @dan Both my cousin and sister have a Bosch series 4 dishwasher. Cousin's is 2-3 years old, and has no WiFi connectivity, sister's is about half a year old, has WiFi, and requires you to use the app to use some features that are available through buttons on the older model, because it's so much easier to put the dishes in, find the phone, unlock it, run the app, wait for it to load, scroll down to the dishwasher, tap it, then select the program instead of pressing 2-5 buttons.

                          cppguy@infosec.spaceC timwardcam@c.imT rotopenguin@mastodon.socialR 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                          • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                            @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan My dishwasher isn't internet-connected. 🙂

                            But I check my inverter while I'm out. All the time. And I switch it over to AC First if the sun disappears because I don't want the battery running dead.

                            I also check my home camera system when I'm out... Fairly often. Particular when we're away for long periods of time, and I want to check on my dog.

                            I also use my Google Home app from the car, to switch on the outside lights when we're driving home late at night.

                            I could set up a VPN at home and make sure I connect to it from my phone, but that would require installing servers at home and finding software and constant tinkering... which, to be honest, I used to love doing, I could spend hours on that sort of thing, but as I get older, more and more, I'm wanting stuff to just... work.

                            I'm capable of troubleshooting when it doesn't, and I'm not completely helpless like so many non-technical people, but I'd rather not have to spend all day, every day, troubleshooting.

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                            #26

                            @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan In terms of just automating stuff... Yeah, I've got that too, especially on the inverter. If the battery drops below x% and there is AC power, then stop draining the battery. If it's after xx:xx and the battery is on y%, then charge it up to z% and stop.

                            But see, I'm exceptionally curious. I know the automations are there and I'm happy with them, but I still want to see what's happening. I'm not content to just let it run and never check it myself. 🙂

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                            • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                              @fasnix
                              Hi
                              Nein das war mir nicht bewusst.
                              War aber auch nicht mein Ziel.
                              eine UUID/GUID ist nur mMn eine schöne und auch zufällige art eine eindeutige und trotzdem nicht über andere Dienste zuordenbare Identität zu wählen im Internet.

                              Ob ich meinen Namen deswegen ändere muss ich noch abwägen.

                              Ein "nicht screanreader relevant" flag wäre nett. oder ein "screnreade lesen bitte einfach nur random_UUID" oder so...

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                              #27
                              @someone_else
                              Hm, ich verstehe deine Intention, aber vielleicht kannst du die UUID dann als "custom field" ins Profil schreiben?

                              So wird sie halt vor jedem deiner Beiträge vorgelesen.
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                              • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                                @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan In terms of just automating stuff... Yeah, I've got that too, especially on the inverter. If the battery drops below x% and there is AC power, then stop draining the battery. If it's after xx:xx and the battery is on y%, then charge it up to z% and stop.

                                But see, I'm exceptionally curious. I know the automations are there and I'm happy with them, but I still want to see what's happening. I'm not content to just let it run and never check it myself. 🙂

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                                #28

                                @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan I guess you could say that while some people are opening up Facebook or Instagram and scrolling mindlessly through the algorithmic feed when they're board, I'm opening my inverter's app to see how much power we're getting and drawing, and checking the charts for today.... Or opening my camera app to see what's going on at home. Those things are *my* drugs. 😄

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                                • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                                  @dan
                                  - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                                  - "Why is on the internet?"
                                  - "To download software updates!"
                                  - "Why does it need software updates?"
                                  - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                                  - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                                  - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                                  #29

                                  @someone_else @dan probably means it collects more data...

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                                  • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                                    @dan
                                    - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                                    - "Why is on the internet?"
                                    - "To download software updates!"
                                    - "Why does it need software updates?"
                                    - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                                    - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                                    - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                                    #30

                                    @someone_else @dan @Faintdreams 💯🤦🏻

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                                    • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                                      @dan
                                      - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                                      - "Why is on the internet?"
                                      - "To download software updates!"
                                      - "Why does it need software updates?"
                                      - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                                      - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                                      - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                                      #31

                                      @someone_else @dan 🤣😅

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                                      • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

                                        Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

                                        At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

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                                        #32

                                        @dan Ironically, I actively want a software patch for my dishwasher. It has a full programme and quick programme. We favour the latter (we're impatient) but it doesn't include a drying cycle. I bet that could be fixed in software.

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                                        • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                                          @dan
                                          - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                                          - "Why is on the internet?"
                                          - "To download software updates!"
                                          - "Why does it need software updates?"
                                          - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                                          - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                                          - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                                          #33

                                          @someone_else @dan there's a hole in the bucket dear Laiza.

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