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Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

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  • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

    Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

    At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

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    #13

    @dan
    Maybe it’s installing a new shelf layout

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    • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

      Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

      At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

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      #14

      @dan Does it have a web cam inside? Hackers might be able to steal all your dirty secrets?

      I've always wanted to watch my plates get cleaned whist I'm out 🤣

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      • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

        @dan
        - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
        - "Why is on the internet?"
        - "To download software updates!"
        - "Why does it need software updates?"
        - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
        - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
        - "Because it's on the internet!"

        grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #15

        @someone_else @dan To be fair, being able to use my phone to start it or stop it or check if it's running, even when I'm out, is pretty useful.

        Maybe I had set it to start at 12:00, but my house runs through solar and I know the dishwasher uses a lot of power, and now at 11:50 I see it's suddenly gone super overcast and I check my inverter (which is also Internet-connected) and I see it's currently only getting in like 140W where I would've expected 2400W, so I want to abort the timer that starts the dishwasher (or if the dishwasher is CURRENTLY running, I want to stop it immediately). 🤷‍♂️

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        • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

          Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

          At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

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          #16

          @dan Yet...

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          • dan@discuss.systemsD dan@discuss.systems

            Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

            At least it’s not adding new AI features, I guess…

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            #17

            @dan Dishwasher: "Can't run now. Not full enough".

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            • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

              @dan
              - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
              - "Why is on the internet?"
              - "To download software updates!"
              - "Why does it need software updates?"
              - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
              - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
              - "Because it's on the internet!"

              8472@norden.social8 This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @someone_else @dan https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/i-wont-connect-my-dishwasher-your-stupid-cloud/

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              • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                @someone_else @dan To be fair, being able to use my phone to start it or stop it or check if it's running, even when I'm out, is pretty useful.

                Maybe I had set it to start at 12:00, but my house runs through solar and I know the dishwasher uses a lot of power, and now at 11:50 I see it's suddenly gone super overcast and I check my inverter (which is also Internet-connected) and I see it's currently only getting in like 140W where I would've expected 2400W, so I want to abort the timer that starts the dishwasher (or if the dishwasher is CURRENTLY running, I want to stop it immediately). 🤷‍♂️

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                #19

                @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan Be realistic. When are you actually micromanaging that stuff so precisely? I'd wager, never. Instead, you have an automation set up somewhere that does this automatically for you.
                There is no actual technical reason why that "somewhere" would have to be in the "cloud". It should be in your own home, on your own local network, under your control. And if you really do want to check in on anything from outside, use a VPN to connect to your home network.

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                • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                  @dan
                  - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                  - "Why is on the internet?"
                  - "To download software updates!"
                  - "Why does it need software updates?"
                  - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                  - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                  - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                  #20

                  @someone_else @dan So it can look at dishwasher porn

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                  • silberwoelfin@chaos.socialS silberwoelfin@chaos.social

                    @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan Be realistic. When are you actually micromanaging that stuff so precisely? I'd wager, never. Instead, you have an automation set up somewhere that does this automatically for you.
                    There is no actual technical reason why that "somewhere" would have to be in the "cloud". It should be in your own home, on your own local network, under your control. And if you really do want to check in on anything from outside, use a VPN to connect to your home network.

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                    #21

                    @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan My dishwasher isn't internet-connected. 🙂

                    But I check my inverter while I'm out. All the time. And I switch it over to AC First if the sun disappears because I don't want the battery running dead.

                    I also check my home camera system when I'm out... Fairly often. Particular when we're away for long periods of time, and I want to check on my dog.

                    I also use my Google Home app from the car, to switch on the outside lights when we're driving home late at night.

                    I could set up a VPN at home and make sure I connect to it from my phone, but that would require installing servers at home and finding software and constant tinkering... which, to be honest, I used to love doing, I could spend hours on that sort of thing, but as I get older, more and more, I'm wanting stuff to just... work.

                    I'm capable of troubleshooting when it doesn't, and I'm not completely helpless like so many non-technical people, but I'd rather not have to spend all day, every day, troubleshooting.

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                    • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                      @dan
                      - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                      - "Why is on the internet?"
                      - "To download software updates!"
                      - "Why does it need software updates?"
                      - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                      - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                      - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                      #22

                      @someone_else @dan Both my cousin and sister have a Bosch series 4 dishwasher. Cousin's is 2-3 years old, and has no WiFi connectivity, sister's is about half a year old, has WiFi, and requires you to use the app to use some features that are available through buttons on the older model, because it's so much easier to put the dishes in, find the phone, unlock it, run the app, wait for it to load, scroll down to the dishwasher, tap it, then select the program instead of pressing 2-5 buttons.

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                      • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                        @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan My dishwasher isn't internet-connected. 🙂

                        But I check my inverter while I'm out. All the time. And I switch it over to AC First if the sun disappears because I don't want the battery running dead.

                        I also check my home camera system when I'm out... Fairly often. Particular when we're away for long periods of time, and I want to check on my dog.

                        I also use my Google Home app from the car, to switch on the outside lights when we're driving home late at night.

                        I could set up a VPN at home and make sure I connect to it from my phone, but that would require installing servers at home and finding software and constant tinkering... which, to be honest, I used to love doing, I could spend hours on that sort of thing, but as I get older, more and more, I'm wanting stuff to just... work.

                        I'm capable of troubleshooting when it doesn't, and I'm not completely helpless like so many non-technical people, but I'd rather not have to spend all day, every day, troubleshooting.

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                        #23

                        @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan In terms of just automating stuff... Yeah, I've got that too, especially on the inverter. If the battery drops below x% and there is AC power, then stop draining the battery. If it's after xx:xx and the battery is on y%, then charge it up to z% and stop.

                        But see, I'm exceptionally curious. I know the automations are there and I'm happy with them, but I still want to see what's happening. I'm not content to just let it run and never check it myself. 🙂

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                        • grahamdowns@mastodon.africaG grahamdowns@mastodon.africa

                          @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan In terms of just automating stuff... Yeah, I've got that too, especially on the inverter. If the battery drops below x% and there is AC power, then stop draining the battery. If it's after xx:xx and the battery is on y%, then charge it up to z% and stop.

                          But see, I'm exceptionally curious. I know the automations are there and I'm happy with them, but I still want to see what's happening. I'm not content to just let it run and never check it myself. 🙂

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                          #24

                          @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan I guess you could say that while some people are opening up Facebook or Instagram and scrolling mindlessly through the algorithmic feed when they're board, I'm opening my inverter's app to see how much power we're getting and drawing, and checking the charts for today.... Or opening my camera app to see what's going on at home. Those things are *my* drugs. 😄

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                          • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                            @dan
                            - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                            - "Why is on the internet?"
                            - "To download software updates!"
                            - "Why does it need software updates?"
                            - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                            - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                            - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                            #25

                            @someone_else @dan probably means it collects more data...

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                            • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                              @dan
                              - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                              - "Why is on the internet?"
                              - "To download software updates!"
                              - "Why does it need software updates?"
                              - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                              - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                              - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                              #26

                              @someone_else @dan @Faintdreams 💯🤦🏻

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                              • someone_else@infosec.exchangeS someone_else@infosec.exchange

                                @dan
                                - "My dishwasher is on the internet!"
                                - "Why is on the internet?"
                                - "To download software updates!"
                                - "Why does it need software updates?"
                                - "To fix security vulnerabilities!"
                                - "Why would it have security vulnerabilities?"
                                - "Because it's on the internet!"

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                                #27

                                @someone_else @dan 🤣😅

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