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  • nlarson830@techhub.socialN nlarson830@techhub.social

    @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

    I wouldn't be surprised if banks still used punchcards for their COBOL

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    #102

    @nlarson830

    I'm sure they don't. Mainframes are really up-to-date these days:

    https://www.ibm.com/products/z17

    And they offer at least 50 years of backwards-compatibility.

    @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

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    • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

      I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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      #103

      @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

      Sigh! Good times!

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      • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

        I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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        #104

        @kibcol1049

        I remember when #NHL #Hockey didn't have ads on the side boards! 🧓

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        • doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD doctorwhom@mastodon.social

          @kibcol1049

          I remember when #NHL #Hockey didn't have ads on the side boards! 🧓

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          #105

          @doctorwhom @kibcol1049 It was nice to watch Olympic hockey without those ads.

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          • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

            @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

            Sigh! Good times!

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            #106

            @Karen5Lund @kibcol1049 I remember Veronica and Jughead.

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            • kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.socialK kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social

              @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz
              I signed up for a community college sort of computer programming class, 'cuz I was certain computers would be a huge part of my career (correct).

              Looked at the shopping list for the syllabus of the COBOL class, & saw I needed to buy a box of punch cards.

              Immediately dropped the class. I would've been cool with learning COBOL, but if they were still doing punchcards when I already had an XT with dual floppy drives, they were too backward.

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              #107

              @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I know what you mean! As a kid in school though, punch cards helped me understand how data is stored on other media. I think they could still be a good teaching resource.

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              • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

                @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

                Sigh! Good times!

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                #108

                @Karen5Lund @kibcol1049 Mosaic as the browser

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                • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                  @TheLancashireman @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

                  Ooh, yeah. I remember typing nntp kick over and over again until Demon's news server delivered messages. For a long time, it didn't keep up with the huge influx of new customers. (They eventually fixed it.)

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                  #109
                  @CppGuy@infosec.space @TheLancashireman@hostux.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca @NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot @kibcol1049@mstdn.social Was that in the KA9Q days?
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                  • revivalrecords@cupoftea.socialR revivalrecords@cupoftea.social

                    @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I know what you mean! As a kid in school though, punch cards helped me understand how data is stored on other media. I think they could still be a good teaching resource.

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                    #110

                    @revivalrecords @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz before punch cards --> I remember my local newspaper used to use spools of paper ribbon with holes punched in them. the original tape so to speak. lol

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                    • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                      @CppGuy@infosec.space @TheLancashireman@hostux.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca @NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot @kibcol1049@mstdn.social Was that in the KA9Q days?
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                      #111

                      @nowster @CppGuy @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

                      Probably - the name rings a bell. The company I worked for used NT at first but switched to Linux shortly afterwards. Both of them have tcp/ip networking built in.

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                      • mistergibson@turtleisland.socialM mistergibson@turtleisland.social

                        @revivalrecords @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz before punch cards --> I remember my local newspaper used to use spools of paper ribbon with holes punched in them. the original tape so to speak. lol

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                        #112

                        @mistergibson @revivalrecords @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                        Yah, imagine my dismay, just a few years later, when I discovered that the Linotype 202 (the manual called it "Paul") needed to read a paper tape to start up.

                        Yeah, the printing/publishing biz tended to be technology backward in places.

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                        • salyavin@famichiki.jpS salyavin@famichiki.jp

                          @kibcol1049
                          I am so old I used gopher and bang paths

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                          #113

                          @salyavin
                          Using Telnet to log into an online CD store in the US to get them shipped to The Netherlands. I think I got a credit card especially for that cause...
                          @kibcol1049

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                          • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                            @harrymuzz At my first job, the computer room temperature was controlled with double door air lock to enter. The computer was huge with punch card operators typing and huge floor to ceiling reel to reel tapes. The print outs were on large sheets of paper and took several runs for all the errors to be corrected. With programmers, inputters and clerks, there were about 8 staff. Nowadays a kid of 8 or 9 could do it all and more on a smartphone and 30 times quicker! Hard to believe but true.

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                            #114

                            @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz and if you went into the computer room (normally only to show a visitor round and impress them) you had to put a drawing pin into a cork board at the door, one for each person. So that in the event of a fire and the room being flooded with halon gas, they would know that there were unconscious people inside needing rescued quickly.

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                            • outinthehills@mastodon.scotO outinthehills@mastodon.scot

                              @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz and if you went into the computer room (normally only to show a visitor round and impress them) you had to put a drawing pin into a cork board at the door, one for each person. So that in the event of a fire and the room being flooded with halon gas, they would know that there were unconscious people inside needing rescued quickly.

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                              #115

                              @outinthehills @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I don't think we had that. But we were told that when the klaxon went off we'd better be out of the door in as few seconds as we could manage.

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                              • outinthehills@mastodon.scotO outinthehills@mastodon.scot

                                @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz and if you went into the computer room (normally only to show a visitor round and impress them) you had to put a drawing pin into a cork board at the door, one for each person. So that in the event of a fire and the room being flooded with halon gas, they would know that there were unconscious people inside needing rescued quickly.

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                                #116

                                @outinthehills @harrymuzz My last job had a massive computer room with banks of computers, servers, alarms and network stuff. Not being in IT now I only went in there occasionally for some minor maintenance tasks. It was a maze of alleyways and corridors. When the fire alarm went off you had 2 minutes to get out before the gas fire suppressant was released, flashing red lights and deafening klaxons increased panic as you struggled to remember the way out. Very scary!

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                                • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                                  I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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                                  #117

                                  @kibcol1049 I'm so old I discovered my fanfic message board through an advertisement in the back of a paperback book.

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                                  • john_loader@ohai.socialJ john_loader@ohai.social

                                    @Karen5Lund @kibcol1049 Mosaic as the browser

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                                    #118

                                    @John_Loader @kibcol1049 Netscape between 1995 and 1999, before it was acquired by AOL. Probably more like 1996 for me.

                                    Entrance to the rabbit hole here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netscape

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                                    • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                                      @CppGuy@infosec.space @TheLancashireman@hostux.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca @NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot @kibcol1049@mstdn.social Was that in the KA9Q days?
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                                      #119

                                      @nowster

                                      Yes! Thanks for reminding me of the name of that app — I couldn't dredge it up from my memory.

                                      @TheLancashireman @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

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                                      • kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.socialK kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social

                                        @mistergibson @revivalrecords @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                                        Yah, imagine my dismay, just a few years later, when I discovered that the Linotype 202 (the manual called it "Paul") needed to read a paper tape to start up.

                                        Yeah, the printing/publishing biz tended to be technology backward in places.

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                                        #120

                                        @kelvin0mql I think Linotype-Paul was the name of the company then. I remember using the APL 200 terminal which seemed really high-tech as it had floppy disks and was basically an early Apple computer.

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                                        • telred17@mastodon.me.ukT telred17@mastodon.me.uk

                                          @kelvin0mql I think Linotype-Paul was the name of the company then. I remember using the APL 200 terminal which seemed really high-tech as it had floppy disks and was basically an early Apple computer.

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                                          #121

                                          @telred17
                                          Oh, totally. All the Linotype stuff I had a chance to work with was clever. We had a Linotype chrome scanner. That thing was COOL.

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