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  • robpumphrey@mastodonapp.ukR robpumphrey@mastodonapp.uk

    @kibcol1049
    Can I be the 94th person to say I remember the Internet without the World Wide Web

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    #96

    @robpumphrey @kibcol1049 Me too. And with every passing day, I think I preferred it a little more...

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    • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

      I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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      #97

      @kibcol1049 Me too! I go back to the days of Usenet.

      Sometimes I wonder if we could somehow use Usenet to organize against the oligarchy. It was designed to resist atomic attack, after all...

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      • quasit@kolektiva.socialQ quasit@kolektiva.social

        @kibcol1049 Me too! I go back to the days of Usenet.

        Sometimes I wonder if we could somehow use Usenet to organize against the oligarchy. It was designed to resist atomic attack, after all...

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        #98

        @Quasit @kibcol1049 just because something can survive nuclear war doesn't mean it can survive unmoderated spam, porn and nazis.

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        • bencurthoys@mastodon.socialB bencurthoys@mastodon.social

          @Quasit @kibcol1049 just because something can survive nuclear war doesn't mean it can survive unmoderated spam, porn and nazis.

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          #99

          @bencurthoys @kibcol1049

          True, but that might actually help. Protective camouflage. With all that crap out there, how will they find cunningly-disguised encrypted communications?

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          • quasit@kolektiva.socialQ quasit@kolektiva.social

            @bencurthoys @kibcol1049

            True, but that might actually help. Protective camouflage. With all that crap out there, how will they find cunningly-disguised encrypted communications?

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            #100

            @Quasit @kibcol1049 "I'm not looking at porn, it's this quarter's KPI results hidden using steganography"

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            • thelancashireman@hostux.socialT thelancashireman@hostux.social

              @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

              I'll just leave this here ...
              https://sattlers.org/mickey/culture/humor/items/Geekish/montyPythonDeadServers.html

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              #101

              @TheLancashireman @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

              Ooh, yeah. I remember typing nntp kick over and over again until Demon's news server delivered messages. For a long time, it didn't keep up with the huge influx of new customers. (They eventually fixed it.)

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              • nlarson830@techhub.socialN nlarson830@techhub.social

                @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                I wouldn't be surprised if banks still used punchcards for their COBOL

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                #102

                @nlarson830

                I'm sure they don't. Mainframes are really up-to-date these days:

                https://www.ibm.com/products/z17

                And they offer at least 50 years of backwards-compatibility.

                @kelvin0mql @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

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                • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                  I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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                  #103

                  @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

                  Sigh! Good times!

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                  • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                    I'm so old I remember when the internet didn't have commercials.

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                    #104

                    @kibcol1049

                    I remember when #NHL #Hockey didn't have ads on the side boards! 🧓

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                    • doctorwhom@mastodon.socialD doctorwhom@mastodon.social

                      @kibcol1049

                      I remember when #NHL #Hockey didn't have ads on the side boards! 🧓

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                      #105

                      @doctorwhom @kibcol1049 It was nice to watch Olympic hockey without those ads.

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                      • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

                        @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

                        Sigh! Good times!

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                        #106

                        @Karen5Lund @kibcol1049 I remember Veronica and Jughead.

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                        • kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.socialK kelvin0mql@mastodon.hams.social

                          @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz
                          I signed up for a community college sort of computer programming class, 'cuz I was certain computers would be a huge part of my career (correct).

                          Looked at the shopping list for the syllabus of the COBOL class, & saw I needed to buy a box of punch cards.

                          Immediately dropped the class. I would've been cool with learning COBOL, but if they were still doing punchcards when I already had an XT with dual floppy drives, they were too backward.

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                          #107

                          @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I know what you mean! As a kid in school though, punch cards helped me understand how data is stored on other media. I think they could still be a good teaching resource.

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                          • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

                            @kibcol1049 I remember accessing the Internet (it was capitalized, like the name of a place) using Netscape and Altavista search.

                            Sigh! Good times!

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                            #108

                            @Karen5Lund @kibcol1049 Mosaic as the browser

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                            • cppguy@infosec.spaceC cppguy@infosec.space

                              @TheLancashireman @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

                              Ooh, yeah. I remember typing nntp kick over and over again until Demon's news server delivered messages. For a long time, it didn't keep up with the huge influx of new customers. (They eventually fixed it.)

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                              #109
                              @CppGuy@infosec.space @TheLancashireman@hostux.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca @NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot @kibcol1049@mstdn.social Was that in the KA9Q days?
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                              • revivalrecords@cupoftea.socialR revivalrecords@cupoftea.social

                                @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I know what you mean! As a kid in school though, punch cards helped me understand how data is stored on other media. I think they could still be a good teaching resource.

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                                #110

                                @revivalrecords @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz before punch cards --> I remember my local newspaper used to use spools of paper ribbon with holes punched in them. the original tape so to speak. lol

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                                • nowster@fedi.nowster.me.ukN nowster@fedi.nowster.me.uk
                                  @CppGuy@infosec.space @TheLancashireman@hostux.social @tantramar@zeroes.ca @NormanDunbar@mastodon.scot @kibcol1049@mstdn.social Was that in the KA9Q days?
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                                  #111

                                  @nowster @CppGuy @tantramar @NormanDunbar @kibcol1049

                                  Probably - the name rings a bell. The company I worked for used NT at first but switched to Linux shortly afterwards. Both of them have tcp/ip networking built in.

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                                  • mistergibson@turtleisland.socialM mistergibson@turtleisland.social

                                    @revivalrecords @kelvin0mql @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz before punch cards --> I remember my local newspaper used to use spools of paper ribbon with holes punched in them. the original tape so to speak. lol

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                                    #112

                                    @mistergibson @revivalrecords @nlarson830 @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz

                                    Yah, imagine my dismay, just a few years later, when I discovered that the Linotype 202 (the manual called it "Paul") needed to read a paper tape to start up.

                                    Yeah, the printing/publishing biz tended to be technology backward in places.

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                                    • salyavin@famichiki.jpS salyavin@famichiki.jp

                                      @kibcol1049
                                      I am so old I used gopher and bang paths

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                                      #113

                                      @salyavin
                                      Using Telnet to log into an online CD store in the US to get them shipped to The Netherlands. I think I got a credit card especially for that cause...
                                      @kibcol1049

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                                      • kibcol1049@mstdn.socialK kibcol1049@mstdn.social

                                        @harrymuzz At my first job, the computer room temperature was controlled with double door air lock to enter. The computer was huge with punch card operators typing and huge floor to ceiling reel to reel tapes. The print outs were on large sheets of paper and took several runs for all the errors to be corrected. With programmers, inputters and clerks, there were about 8 staff. Nowadays a kid of 8 or 9 could do it all and more on a smartphone and 30 times quicker! Hard to believe but true.

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                                        #114

                                        @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz and if you went into the computer room (normally only to show a visitor round and impress them) you had to put a drawing pin into a cork board at the door, one for each person. So that in the event of a fire and the room being flooded with halon gas, they would know that there were unconscious people inside needing rescued quickly.

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                                        • outinthehills@mastodon.scotO outinthehills@mastodon.scot

                                          @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz and if you went into the computer room (normally only to show a visitor round and impress them) you had to put a drawing pin into a cork board at the door, one for each person. So that in the event of a fire and the room being flooded with halon gas, they would know that there were unconscious people inside needing rescued quickly.

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                                          #115

                                          @outinthehills @kibcol1049 @harrymuzz I don't think we had that. But we were told that when the klaxon went off we'd better be out of the door in as few seconds as we could manage.

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