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  • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

    Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

    I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

    I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

    I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

    I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

    I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

    I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

    I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

    LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

    killyourfm@layer8.spaceK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #53

    @joby You need this, it will help: https://justthebrowser.com

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    • neverbeaten@mas.toN neverbeaten@mas.to

      @joby
      See also: “sign in with…”

      I’ll sign in with my credentials unique to your site, not Google or Apple.

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      #54

      @neverbeaten @joby or for me, I will probably keep coming to your site and then immediately leaving with a great feeling of resentment until I remember to tell Kagi to never show me your stupid fucking site in search results again. 😈

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      • neverbeaten@mas.toN neverbeaten@mas.to

        @joby
        See also: “sign in with…”

        I’ll sign in with my credentials unique to your site, not Google or Apple.

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        #55

        @neverbeaten Yeah. Granted I'm a weird nerd, but I actually do have every single login I use behind unique email addresses. I bought a lifetime subscription to Proton Pass a long time ago, and it integrates an email alias feature from SimpleLogin. So when I'm making a new account it just pops up a little alias generator right there. Very convenient.

        SimpleLogin even lets you use your own domain name, so I'm not completely hosed if they go under or enshittify someday.

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        • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

          Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

          I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

          I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

          I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

          I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

          I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

          I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

          I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

          LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

          sheamuspatt@mstdn.caS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #56

          @joby Don't blame the programmers. I'm sure it's the sales team / executive suite / etc. who insist they do these things.
          My own pet peave when I need to use Windows (which I avoid when possible) is that any time Windows brings up something in the browser, it will be in Edge ignoring my stated preference to use Firefox.
          There are extensions (for #Firefox at least) that can block those annoying "Log in with Google" popups eg Block Origin.

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          • chrisoliver@indieweb.socialC chrisoliver@indieweb.social

            You don’t? OK. Well ask you again later:

            https://blog.prototypr.io/not-now-a91c75ad35b6

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            #57

            @chrisoliver That's another major annoyance. "No, never" is not on the list of alternatives.

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            • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

              @neverbeaten Yeah. Granted I'm a weird nerd, but I actually do have every single login I use behind unique email addresses. I bought a lifetime subscription to Proton Pass a long time ago, and it integrates an email alias feature from SimpleLogin. So when I'm making a new account it just pops up a little alias generator right there. Very convenient.

              SimpleLogin even lets you use your own domain name, so I'm not completely hosed if they go under or enshittify someday.

              neverbeaten@mas.toN This user is from outside of this forum
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              #58

              @joby
              I love proton pass.

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              • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                @neverbeaten @joby or for me, I will probably keep coming to your site and then immediately leaving with a great feeling of resentment until I remember to tell Kagi to never show me your stupid fucking site in search results again. 😈

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                #59

                @alisynthesis @neverbeaten I've also gotten a lot of mileage out of just using uBlock to turn off all javascript except sites I've explicitly allowed it for. That takes care of a huge swath of these kinds of annoyances.

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                • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                  Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                  I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                  I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                  I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                  I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                  I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                  I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                  I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                  LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                  pepperthevixen@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #60

                  @joby louder for the product managers lurking in the slack channel

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                  • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                    @alisynthesis @neverbeaten I've also gotten a lot of mileage out of just using uBlock to turn off all javascript except sites I've explicitly allowed it for. That takes care of a huge swath of these kinds of annoyances.

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                    #61

                    @joby if you told me ten years ago I would consider doing that, I would have laughed. If you told me five years ago, I would have said, "that seems extreme."

                    Today it sounds like a pretty good idea.

                    @neverbeaten

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                    • alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.comA alisynthesis@io.waxandleather.com

                      @joby if you told me ten years ago I would consider doing that, I would have laughed. If you told me five years ago, I would have said, "that seems extreme."

                      Today it sounds like a pretty good idea.

                      @neverbeaten

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                      #62

                      @alisynthesis @neverbeaten It's gotten to the point where I even showed my mom how to do it, because it's become borderline necessary for existing on the internet.

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                      • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                        Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                        I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                        I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                        I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                        I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                        I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                        I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                        I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                        LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

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                        #63

                        @joby THIS

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                        • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe shared this topic
                        • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                          Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                          I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                          I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                          I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                          I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                          I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                          I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                          I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                          LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                          areal@ruhr.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #64

                          @joby no Newsletter ever? that‘s INSANE!

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                          • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                            Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                            I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                            I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                            I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                            I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                            I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                            I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                            I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                            LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                            lowtech@tldr.nettime.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #65

                            @joby

                            I've been using Gmail since 2004. No, Google, you do not need to know my birthday to verify that I'm over 18.

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                            • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                              @bolderbekah You're not wrong, but it ultimately takes two to tango. I feel like a lot of programmers just utterly divorce themselves from the consequences of their work. Honestly a lot of people in general do that, because unethical jobs often pay well.

                              Like I could probably double or triple my salary by getting a job at our local national labs or some defense contractor, but ... I like how working on my silly little university websites means the code I write will never kill anybody. That's like one of my number one job perks.

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                              #66

                              @joby I’ve absolutely avoided interviews with companies or leaders that seemed unethical, and I try to minimize user disruption (whether those users are employees or customers).

                              I think Google crossed the line a long time ago with rhe chrome pestering, and I know companies are forcing AI into tools where there isn’t demand and not letting people opt out.

                              * there are some good intentions for PLG & educating users on new features they may not know. Just respect their choice to say no thanks.

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                              • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                                Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                                I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                                I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                                I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                                I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                                I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                                I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                                I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                                LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                                njwookie@mindly.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #67

                                @joby

                                I love good poetry! Bravo.

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                                • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                                  Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                                  I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                                  I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                                  LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                                  falcennial@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #68

                                  @joby maybe we should create a dialogue prompt serving this text that pops up in every code writing application each time it is opened as a helpful reminder to website developers that will help them stop making every wrong choice that exists in the course of their work.

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                                  • joby@hachyderm.ioJ joby@hachyderm.io

                                    Dear every programmer working on websites and browsers:

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO TRY CHROME.

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO LOG IN WITH MY GOOGLE ACCOUNT.

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE BACK TO THE DEFAULT.

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE MY SEARCH ENGINE TO YOURS.

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO SHARE MY LOCATION.

                                    I DO NOT WANT TO SUBSCRIBE TO ONE SINGLE NEWSLETTER EVER.

                                    I DO NOT WANT NOTIFICATIONS.

                                    LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE.

                                    maddad@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #69

                                    @joby

                                    copying and saving so I don't have to type it out each time 😀

                                    Brilliant 👍 ✊

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