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Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

    It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

    I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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    #35

    @GossiTheDog

    Please check out https://stopgenai.com

    Signal: crowgirl.84

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    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

      Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

      It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

      I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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      #36

      @GossiTheDog @baldur How come this part (seen in of the attached pictures in the toot above):

      “As of writing, Microsoft's stock is down around 10% over the past three months, as executives like CEO Satya Nadella, President Brad Smith, and CCO Judson Althoff unload tens of millions of dollars of shares.”

      not a way bigger story? If the top-brass of MS does not think themselves at the brink of an AI goldrush, why should anybody else?

      https://www.windowscentral.com/microsoft/microsoft-shares-dip-10-percent-over-the-last-three-months-ballooning-infrastructure-capex-shrinking-ai-hype-and-googles-resurgence-blamed

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      • manchestermelly@universeodon.comM manchestermelly@universeodon.com

        @GossiTheDog A lot of tech people hate it too, and can't wait for the bubble to burst.

        I keep seeing adverts for new laptops "powered by AI", and cannot think of a less attractive selling point.

        All the devs on my team have gone from "This could really speed up development" to "This creates so much extra work because there is no intelligence there, they're all just sycophantic predictive text generators".

        When working with codebases, the AIs really struggle with context. They often provide outdated solutions, introduce technical debt and often add three bugs for every bug fixed. We have stopped using AI completely. No "vibe coding" crap allowed here.

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        #37

        @manchestermelly @GossiTheDog

        Please check out https://stopgenai.com

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

          It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

          I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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          #38

          @GossiTheDog ...at the same time i spoke a retired friend who was very enthusiastic about the new AI features in Adobe Photoshop, it really made his hobby more interesting.

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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

            It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

            I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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            #39

            @GossiTheDog
            TV with Copilot? Why? 🫠

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

              It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

              I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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              #40

              @GossiTheDog many platforms have "innovated" by introducing ways of detecting, removing, and blocking AI-generated content. Pinterest, SoundCloud...

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              • hadon@mastodon.socialH hadon@mastodon.social

                @GossiTheDog

                AI may be a nice tool to help humanity advance in certain fields, like medical diagnosis. But that doesn't mean it needs or has to be used "everywhere".
                An analogy would be like eating fast food 3 times a day, you'll surely end up sick.

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                #41

                @hadon @GossiTheDog We can really do without the gratuitous platitudes. That is not "AI". You don't have to "acknowledge" that "AI" could do something good (it can't). You can just say "no, fuck you" to them.

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                • bemmesr@mastodon.socialB bemmesr@mastodon.social

                  @hadon @GossiTheDog right. And there is a big difference between the 'AI' which helps with medical diagnoses and the 'AI' that produces confident-sounding text about almost anything, even when that text is wrong.

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                  #42

                  @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog A statistical model aiding in.diagnosis is not "AI" just science/applied statistics. "AI" is the app that tells the doctor what diagnosis to make, bypassing their agency and laundering responsibility, and harvests confidential patient data for "training". "AI" is a marketing term and a capitalist/technofascist program, not a technology.

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                  • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                    @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog A statistical model aiding in.diagnosis is not "AI" just science/applied statistics. "AI" is the app that tells the doctor what diagnosis to make, bypassing their agency and laundering responsibility, and harvests confidential patient data for "training". "AI" is a marketing term and a capitalist/technofascist program, not a technology.

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                    #43

                    @bemmesr @hadon @GossiTheDog Medical professionals understand, or are supposed to understand, this difference. Even when you get blood work done, the labs don't return a diagnosis. They return numbers and normal ranges. It's up to the doctor to make a diagnosis, which may involve further knowledge they have of the patient. This is also the difference between a legitimate statistical diagnostic tool and "AI".

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                    • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                      @GossiTheDog ...at the same time i spoke a retired friend who was very enthusiastic about the new AI features in Adobe Photoshop, it really made his hobby more interesting.

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                      #44

                      @ErikJonker @GossiTheDog Yes, if your hobby is shopping other people's photos to shitpost on reddit, having a tool that helps you steal other people's creative work probably sounds appealing...

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                        It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                        I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                        #45

                        @GossiTheDog Honestly, with the Google settlement about their voice assistants eavesdropping, "accidentally" triggering Google assistant constantly, and just HOW much Google keeps pushing gemini into everything I'm thinking about moving my Pixel over to GrapheneOS.

                        I just want to escape!

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                        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                          Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                          It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                          I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                          #46

                          @GossiTheDog I was listening to a podcast with some Google vulnerability disclosure heads begging people to not use AI for their reports.

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                          • dalias@hachyderm.ioD dalias@hachyderm.io

                            @ErikJonker @GossiTheDog Yes, if your hobby is shopping other people's photos to shitpost on reddit, having a tool that helps you steal other people's creative work probably sounds appealing...

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                            #47

                            @dalias @GossiTheDog ...wow, your are totally locked-up in your own thinking, the person i mentioned did nothing even close to what you just mentioned... he was editing his OWN work...., he is not on reddit or social media....

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                              It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                              I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                              #48

                              @GossiTheDog

                              (stole this one from someone on mastodon)

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                              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                                It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                                I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                                #49

                                @GossiTheDog

                                How to permanently remove AI ?

                                1. Replace Microsoft Windows with Linux or a BSD. But do not replace it with Red Hat Linux or any Red Hat derivatives. I hear RH is adding AI to their distro.

                                2. For the phone, replace with one of these, but that is not easy. I have never tried but my phone is only used for calls, 2 games and once in a while texting. I know I would have a hard time installing it.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones

                                #BSD #Linux

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                                • jmcunx@mastodon.sdf.orgJ jmcunx@mastodon.sdf.org

                                  @GossiTheDog

                                  How to permanently remove AI ?

                                  1. Replace Microsoft Windows with Linux or a BSD. But do not replace it with Red Hat Linux or any Red Hat derivatives. I hear RH is adding AI to their distro.

                                  2. For the phone, replace with one of these, but that is not easy. I have never tried but my phone is only used for calls, 2 games and once in a while texting. I know I would have a hard time installing it.

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones

                                  #BSD #Linux

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                                  #50

                                  @jmcunx @GossiTheDog 😂 😂 😂

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                                    It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                                    I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                                    #51

                                    @GossiTheDog

                                    Quote: "I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have."

                                    I am sure this quote is rhetorical 🙂

                                    I think we all know why #AI founders are pushing AI. It is because it will allow their companies to get much more/better personal information from us then anything else that now exists.

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                                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                      Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                                      It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                                      I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                                      #52

                                      @GossiTheDog My mom liked the inbox categorization feature on Gmail, but their ML summaries of our family interactions irritated her so much that she figured out how to disable Smart Features on her own and considered the loss of categorization an acceptable collateral. 😌

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                                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                        Yesterday, I heard for the first time people outside of the tech echo chamber talking about AI.

                                        It was my dad asking how to remove Gemini from his phone, as he didn’t want it. Then somebody else asked how to remove Copilot from their TV. That was the entire conversation about GenAI - how to disable it.

                                        I don’t see how that is equivalent to inventing the internet, as AI founders claim they have.

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                                        #53

                                        @GossiTheDog well my uncle loves shoving our family photos into the blender to make things and even my mom and sister despise spending christmas with them. when we went back home it was actually a relief.

                                        that's what ai is, really. annoying, or making you annoying.

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                                        • jmcunx@mastodon.sdf.orgJ jmcunx@mastodon.sdf.org

                                          @GossiTheDog

                                          How to permanently remove AI ?

                                          1. Replace Microsoft Windows with Linux or a BSD. But do not replace it with Red Hat Linux or any Red Hat derivatives. I hear RH is adding AI to their distro.

                                          2. For the phone, replace with one of these, but that is not easy. I have never tried but my phone is only used for calls, 2 games and once in a while texting. I know I would have a hard time installing it.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones

                                          #BSD #Linux

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                                          #54

                                          @jmcunx why not just install an custom ROM without google on your android. AOSP is open source and quite good.

                                          Apple phones on the other site..

                                          @GossiTheDog

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