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  3. Hrrrmm… kinda worried about the implications of what it says for pdm that that python developers survey considered Poetry significant enough to include under virtualenv/dependency management tools but not pdm.

Hrrrmm… kinda worried about the implications of what it says for pdm that that python developers survey considered Poetry significant enough to include under virtualenv/dependency management tools but not pdm.

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    Hrrrmm… kinda worried about the implications of what it says for pdm that that python developers survey considered Poetry significant enough to include under virtualenv/dependency management tools but not pdm.

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    #4

    @mcc poetry has 4x as many github stars as pdm (completely arbitrary metric but easy to see)

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    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

      I dunno, maybe uv really is objectively better than pdm. A friend showed me pdm and I was like "yeah, this is good, this is better than just using requirements.txt… I will use nothing else forever". The only other thing I've tried was Poetry because i thought it would be cross compatible with pdm (it isn't, and I don't think I liked it as much

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      #5

      @mcc I’ve moved completely to uv. It handles venvs and Python versions much better. Poetry last I tried didn’t even attempt Python version management.

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      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

        Amusingly, I did not participate in the Rust Developers Survey this year because there was a question about which RFCs are the most important to you and then I spent the rest of the evening reading RFCs and forgot to finish the survey

        Okay I guess that's not really that amusing. It happened tho

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        #6

        …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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          #7

          @mcc it's weird.

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          • cameron@social.otsuka.systemsC cameron@social.otsuka.systems

            @mcc I’ve moved completely to uv. It handles venvs and Python versions much better. Poetry last I tried didn’t even attempt Python version management.

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            #8

            @cameron I'm not considering uv currently because it's self-hosted. I have lightewight VPSes where I deploy Python code but don't have Rust installed.

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            • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

              @mcc it's weird.

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              #9

              @dysfun It felt weird to me

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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                #10

                I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT THE QUESTION IN THE LAST POST LISTS "SLEEPING" AS A POTENTIAL HOBBY??? DID A ROBOT WRITE THIS?? LIKE NOT A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL AI BUT A ROBOT FROM A 1950S SCIENCE FICTION STORY?!

                dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD video_game_king@mastodon.socialV simon@tutut.delire.partyS mayabotics@tech.lgbtM astraleureka@social.treehouse.systemsA 11 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                  I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT THE QUESTION IN THE LAST POST LISTS "SLEEPING" AS A POTENTIAL HOBBY??? DID A ROBOT WRITE THIS?? LIKE NOT A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL AI BUT A ROBOT FROM A 1950S SCIENCE FICTION STORY?!

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                  #11

                  @mcc hi, fellow programmer, i also sleep

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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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                    #12

                    @mcc wait for the weirdness of thinking about what will the questionaire creators do with that information. How will they correlate that with anything and think they get a reasonable conclusion out of that data.

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                    • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

                      @mcc hi, fellow programmer, i also sleep

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                      #13

                      @dysfun @mcc do you enjoy deriving sustenance from organic compounds? I can’t get enough of them.

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                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                        …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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                        #14

                        @mcc
                        it is a strange list

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          …is this… … is this question in the Python Developers Survey weird? I feel like this is weird?

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                          #15

                          @mcc my american friend told me that americans consider "spending time with family" a hobby in their work culture

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                          • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                            @cameron I'm not considering uv currently because it's self-hosted. I have lightewight VPSes where I deploy Python code but don't have Rust installed.

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                            #16

                            @mcc I don’t think compiling uv from source is the expected installation method

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT THE QUESTION IN THE LAST POST LISTS "SLEEPING" AS A POTENTIAL HOBBY??? DID A ROBOT WRITE THIS?? LIKE NOT A LARGE LANGUAGE MODEL AI BUT A ROBOT FROM A 1950S SCIENCE FICTION STORY?!

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                              #17

                              @mcc Maybe they're referring to people who're into lucid dreaming? *shrugs shoulders*

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                I dunno, maybe uv really is objectively better than pdm. A friend showed me pdm and I was like "yeah, this is good, this is better than just using requirements.txt… I will use nothing else forever". The only other thing I've tried was Poetry because i thought it would be cross compatible with pdm (it isn't, and I don't think I liked it as much

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                                #18

                                @mcc it actually includes pdm in the other related questions

                                did an AI write this

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                                • video_game_king@mastodon.socialV video_game_king@mastodon.social

                                  @mcc Maybe they're referring to people who're into lucid dreaming? *shrugs shoulders*

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                                  #19

                                  @Video_Game_King This… makes… more sense…

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                                  • porglezomp@mastodon.socialP porglezomp@mastodon.social

                                    @mcc I don’t think compiling uv from source is the expected installation method

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                                    #20

                                    @porglezomp @mcc I was about to say

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      @mcc my american friend told me that americans consider "spending time with family" a hobby in their work culture

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                                      #21

                                      @whitequark It is literally true but there is supposed to be an understanding that we don't *admit it out loud*

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        @porglezomp @mcc I was about to say

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                                        #22

                                        @whitequark @porglezomp Well maybe when my Ubuntu VPSes are upgraded to a recent enough LTS I can trust its uv, I'll start using uv

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          @whitequark It is literally true but there is supposed to be an understanding that we don't *admit it out loud*

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                                          #23

                                          @mcc @whitequark except when you’ve been fired but want to lie about why

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