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  • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

    #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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    #12

    @StefanMuelller
    many rational
    Much real
    So infinites
    Wow

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    • bart@smop.fyiB bart@smop.fyi

      @StefanMuelller @lexiconista I’m noticing everyone around me (in the Netherlands though, so English as a second language) using “amount” for countable things instead of “number”. Is that a real trend?

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      #13

      @bart @StefanMuelller @lexiconista In American English one would say "number of apples" when talking about whole apples rather than "amount of apples"

      "amount" would be for something that's measured rather than counted. Amount of water or flour for a recipe. If you needed a specific number of grams or volume of apples ( or applesauce ), then you could use amount

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      • librico@mastodon.onlineL librico@mastodon.online

        @StefanMuelller Depends on the set: you can point at a countable subset of the reals and say 'Those are many real numbers'

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        #14

        Many real numbers are in this list, much of the real number line is in this diagram

        (now I’m having a different quibble with myself. Perhaps any half of the real number line would qualify.)

        @librico @StefanMuelller

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        • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

          #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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          #15

          @StefanMuelller Well, technically,

          you cannot use plural for uncountable nouns either. So, it's ‘‘many rational numbers’’, and ‘‘much of the real number-dom’’.

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          • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

            #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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            #16

            @StefanMuelller

            That would depend on what particular set of rational/real numbers you are talking about.

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            • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

              #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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              #17

              @StefanMuelller also “how many does this cost?”

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              • bart@smop.fyiB bart@smop.fyi

                @StefanMuelller @lexiconista I’m noticing everyone around me (in the Netherlands though, so English as a second language) using “amount” for countable things instead of “number”. Is that a real trend?

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                #18

                @bart @StefanMuelller @lexiconista

                Maybe they confuse "amount" with "een berg"

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                • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

                  #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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                  #19

                  @StefanMuelller
                  #AltText4You
                  4 Panel comic with 2 snails.

                  Panel 1:
                  Left snail craws behind right snail and asks: 'English is difficult. When do we use "many" and when do we use "much"?

                  Panel 2:
                  Right snail answers: '"Many" is for nouns that are countable, like apples. "Much" is for nouns that are not countable, like water.

                  Panel 3:
                  Left snail concludes: 'So we should say "many rational numbers" and "much real numbers"?

                  Panel 4:
                  Right snail is turned around to look (with pain?) at left snail.

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                  • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

                    #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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                    #20

                    @StefanMuelller I think that makes sense!

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                    • threesigma@mastodon.onlineT threesigma@mastodon.online

                      @StefanMuelller
                      I would say, things where you can identify unique items…. But then electrons..

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                      #21

                      @ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller
                      Thundercats ?

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                      • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

                        #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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                        #22

                        @StefanMuelller@lingo.lol But neither real numbers nor (ir)rational numbers are limited?

                        Probably should have said something like "indefinite" rather than merely "countable"

                        …and, yes, I get the joke.

                        Oddly, I tend to far more frequently run into the opposite of this problem ("fewer" versus "less").

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                        • bart@smop.fyiB bart@smop.fyi

                          @StefanMuelller @lexiconista I’m noticing everyone around me (in the Netherlands though, so English as a second language) using “amount” for countable things instead of “number”. Is that a real trend?

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                          #23

                          @bart @StefanMuelller @lexiconista so much came before many?

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                          • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

                            #Language #Mathematics #English #Grammar .

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                            #24

                            @StefanMuelller 😂👍🏾
                            @MagicLike

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                            • threesigma@mastodon.onlineT threesigma@mastodon.online

                              @StefanMuelller
                              I would say, things where you can identify unique items…. But then electrons..

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                              #25

                              @ThreeSigma

                              All matter is countable. You just need a sufficiently good microscope.

                              @StefanMuelller

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                              • argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.orgA argv_minus_one@mastodon.sdf.org

                                @ThreeSigma

                                All matter is countable. You just need a sufficiently good microscope.

                                @StefanMuelller

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                                #26

                                @StefanMuelller @argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma is energy many or much

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                                • lina@tech.lgbtL lina@tech.lgbt

                                  @StefanMuelller @argv_minus_one @ThreeSigma is energy many or much

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                                  #27

                                  @lina

                                  For that, you also need a sufficiently good theory of particle physics.

                                  @StefanMuelller @ThreeSigma

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                                  • threesigma@mastodon.onlineT threesigma@mastodon.online

                                    @StefanMuelller
                                    I would say, things where you can identify unique items…. But then electrons..

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                                    #28

                                    @ThreeSigma @StefanMuelller

                                    Much is certainly open, and many are certainly closed. That much can be said

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                                    • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

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                                      #29

                                      @StefanMuelller Missed opportunity to add a Loss.jpg to the green snail's eyes

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                                      • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

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                                        #30

                                        @StefanMuelller Number is the noun in both cases. Rational and real are adjectives.

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                                        • stefanmuelller@lingo.lolS stefanmuelller@lingo.lol

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                                          #31

                                          @StefanMuelller @dimsumthinking 😆

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