This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
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@MisuseCase @futurebird my daughter a grade school teacher has heard teachers talk this way as well
@spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I don't want to steal-man this horrible behavior, but I do wonder about the under-funding of public schools and teachers and how much it contributes via a scarcity / 'taking up resources' angle. Like, is this evidence how austerity breeds hate or somesuch, I guess
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@futurebird There's this effect, donno the right terminology in English : you feel better off if your neighbor has bad luck. Seems like that is the case here
@MaSch @futurebird in the US, we just use the german word "schadenfreude," because it's such a perfect word. one word that replaces an entire phrase -- i love german!
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@spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I don't want to steal-man this horrible behavior, but I do wonder about the under-funding of public schools and teachers and how much it contributes via a scarcity / 'taking up resources' angle. Like, is this evidence how austerity breeds hate or somesuch, I guess
@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase
I teach at a school with a bunch of grants and things and some of the brightest most neurotic kids in the city HOWEVER I have all kinds of teacher friends at all kinds of schools. Schools without nearly enough staff or supplies and lunches that someone should build a little fence around and hang up a "Superfund" sign.
I do not know any teachers like this.
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@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase
I teach at a school with a bunch of grants and things and some of the brightest most neurotic kids in the city HOWEVER I have all kinds of teacher friends at all kinds of schools. Schools without nearly enough staff or supplies and lunches that someone should build a little fence around and hang up a "Superfund" sign.
I do not know any teachers like this.
@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase
The worst thing I ever heard a teacher say about students was this veteran NYC public school teacher in the Bronx who said "well you know they are from the crack baby generation that's why they can't concentrate"
No. They can't concentrate because they are 6th graders in a class with 32 students.
That is too many sixth graders. Have you met one? I have. Under 20 ALWAYS.
I yelled at him and he walked it back.
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@futurebird
Most of my sympathy goes to the kid & parents. If the teacher reports to a real hotline, at best, that family has a very unnessicary amount of explaining to do. At worse, their taken from their home.But I have some sympathy for the teacher who has been influenced enough to inflict either on the family. Convinced to shed her sympathy. But to be clear, I want, and believe, she can regain that sympathy. But might not if she is singled out like this. And prob double down.
What about that kid? How do you think he's doing?
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@StryderNotavi @ersatzmaus @FediThing @futurebird @dacig While changing those individual feelings is about as useful as recycling your plastic packaging(and, more importantly, taking it on as your personal failing)those emotions do serve as an anchor by which these systemic issues avoid change.
@su_liam @StryderNotavi @ersatzmaus @FediThing @futurebird O can agree with that.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird what do you say in the face of such cruelty when simple words on the internet won’t stop it?
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@specialmonkeytom @futurebird Ben Palmer has been doing stuff like this to real MAGAts for a while. It's unlikely he would pivot to fiction for something like this
@vees @futurebird I stand corrected and sad
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@futurebird
By I might have the least sympathy for this video maker. This has a good chance of being fraud. But is also bias enfocing human slop. Cops, but for liberals' enjoyment. To get progressive clicks. I get he wants to expose this. But there are better ways.I get that shit is fucked. And this can feel cathartic, in the short term. But I ask if it is more harmful in the long term. And if there is better catharsis.
IDK he didn't tell us who she was or put her address up there. That would be kind of irresponsible since people are mad.
That leaves anyone mad about this to try to think about if they know someone like her.
And to maybe reflect on if they might have done anything similar ever.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird this guy does great work.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird Ugh. Trump is just a symptom, isn't he?
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
Bravo!!
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@aeischeid @spreadthetruth @MisuseCase
The worst thing I ever heard a teacher say about students was this veteran NYC public school teacher in the Bronx who said "well you know they are from the crack baby generation that's why they can't concentrate"
No. They can't concentrate because they are 6th graders in a class with 32 students.
That is too many sixth graders. Have you met one? I have. Under 20 ALWAYS.
I yelled at him and he walked it back.
@spreadthetruth @MisuseCase @futurebird I known a few teachers more from smaller towns in the midwest, and while generally less racist /conservative than others in that zone, I could definitely still see some of them falling into taxpayerism type thinking where that metality fuels their latent racism
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird No words
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
@futurebird Ben Palmer is a national treasure. If you've never watched his videos or if you're not familiar with what he does, it's worth it to take some time and look him up.
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Furthermore, this racist hate-monger's channel should be shut down. This is dangerous and inhumane garbage.
@axebos @riggbeck @futurebird You do understand that Ben Palmer is a satirist? He's not actually turning people in to ICE.
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@jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing? Does entertaining the idea of pointless cruelty as an option make you more or less monstrous?
Saying "I would never do that" isn't supposed to be wishful thinking about how nice a person you are, it's supposed to be a foundational moral choice. It's not like the weather or something.
@petealexharris @jhooper @jonoleth @edgeofeurope @futurebird
Why do you think you could choose to be like that? What would make you do such a thing?
I remember times I've talked to police in response to actual crimes, which I thought at the time was a justified decision, if unfortunate. Now, seeing what ICE does, and where they get their staff, has me wondering if what I did was that much different from what that kindergarten teacher did, morally speaking.
Being a good person requires continuous effort to improve yourself, to hold yourself to your own standards. Bad people get that way because it's so easy. I've taken the easy way out before, and I suspect you have, too.
If you WANT to be nothing like them, good for you! If you think you ARE nothing like them, that's most likely wrong in a very simple sense, since you live in this terrible society; and believing means you're not going to wonder so much about what separates you from them, exactly.
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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.
He records them and shares it with the world.
What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?
Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.
This is legit one of the most terrible things I have ever heard since that little Palestinian girl was calling for help.
(Terrible for different reasons.)
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what? ben palmer is a comedian that's been doing stuff like this for ages:
@smattymatty @kitkat_blue @futurebird Based on many of the comments it's pretty obvious many folks haven't heard of him or what he does. I can't speak for him, but it seems to me with this project he's trying to expose horrible people for who they are and throwing their awfulness back in their faces. The teacher in this video is completely tone deaf and seems to think it's just fine to deport a child's parents separating him from them.
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@HeatherMJ @futurebird @Su_G
She particularly didn't like him saying that she didn't sound happy to hear that the people were there legally. Which was not only true, but also putting it mildly. If anything, she sounded slightly disappointed.@jargoggles
Yes, so true! She was a real piece of work!
When she wasn’t admired for dobbing in (informing against) a couple of apparently blameless parents whose child had the ‘misfortune’ to attend the kindergarten she worked at, she identified herself as the ‘victim’… of possible sarcasm… !! Truly petty, as well as a racist bigot. 
️#AUSPol #ICE #petty #racist # bigotry #informants #dobbers #victim
