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An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

    stuartl@mastodon.longlandclan.id.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #74

    @_elena Deary me… a certain vice president is NOT popular on that platform.

    The 24h list is handy if you want a list of accounts to add to your blocklist. I couldn't care less if they see me blocking them, I'm not one of their citizens and not on their soil.

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    • stux@mstdn.socialS stux@mstdn.social

      @_elena It’s kinda scrary, with the right tools one can get a lot of info on people this way

      Maybe not direct but many indirect can also lead to that I guess

      aprazeth@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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      #75

      @stux @_elena

      People would be genuinely surprised how easy that is to trace things back to them even with the "pseudonymized data". Sure it doesn't contain your name, but it still details (for example)

      - Age range
      - Rough location
      - Interests
      - Known associations

      Guess how trivial it becomes to correlate that back to an individual? Age range and rough location are known data-points for governments (census) soooo, yeah. Easy-peasy unfortunately

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        @donhawkins I would recommend keeping the account inactive / deleting the app instead to avoid username squatting.

        I learned the hard way with X - I used Twitter for 14 years and just mere days after deleting 3 accounts, my usernames were immediately seized 😭

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        #76

        @_elena I had one Birdsite account, deleted it, never revisited … why should I care if the account name is reused over there now?

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

          Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

          I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

          The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

          monkee@other.liM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #77

          @_elena@mastodon.social #Bluesky is a horrible Platform. Everyone please abandon it.

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          • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

            @u_urban @_elena I feel like all the people who went to Bluesky because Twitter died and became the rabid zombie X learned precisely nothing. It is inevitable that Bluesky will hurt them too, but they will not go to Mastodon because any of a number of silly reasons they'll fight tooth and nail not to let go of.

            I suppose a Redsky will open up and they'll go to it, then it will go bad and then a Puke Green Sky will open up and they'll go to that, and then a Gangrene Sky will open...

            shanie@mastodon.tails.chS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #78

            @nazokiyoubinbou @u_urban @_elena When Donald Trump originally said that he would ban TikTok, where did people begin their migration?

            An equivalent to TikTok owned by the Chinese government: RedNote.

            The average consumer does not do a lot of thinking, research, or care really.

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            • donhawkins@mastodon.socialD donhawkins@mastodon.social

              @_elena I had one Birdsite account, deleted it, never revisited … why should I care if the account name is reused over there now?

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              #79

              @donhawkins the risk of impersonation

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                @donhawkins the risk of impersonation

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                #80

                @_elena Ahh, yes. Gotcha. Personally, not a major concern. Anticipated from the start & easily managed.

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                  Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                  I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                  The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                  pictor@ohai.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #81

                  @_elena I’m outside their jurisdiction. I want them to see they are getting blocked.

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                    Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                    I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                    The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                    fluffgar@mastodon.scotF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    fluffgar@mastodon.scot
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                    #82

                    @_elena Being outside the US and having no intentions to ever go there, I *have* blocked them.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.

                      I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.

                      If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!

                      martyh@cobolworx.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #83

                      @_elena You have friends here.

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                      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                        I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.

                        I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.

                        If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!

                        accordingtowouter@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #84

                        @_elena and maybe sometimes we also need to judge people using fascist platforms.

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                          Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                          I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                          The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                          martyh@cobolworx.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #85

                          @_elena Good advice. I do the same here. That way it is a private personal choice.

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                          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                            I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.

                            I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.

                            If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!

                            ctproduced@jazztodon.comC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #86

                            @_elena At least for me, I just don't want to see their lies and bias. Having them on a block list does that. It stops them from polluting my feed.

                            Anyone who thinks that stops the US Government from reading your feed, emails, etc. hasn't read Snowdon.

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                            • randomized@masto.bikeR randomized@masto.bike

                              @_elena
                              There is no privacy on bluesky or any other application hosted in US.
                              US government can request data anytime.

                              trebach@functional.cafeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #87

                              @randomized @_elena Or any cloud platform owned by a US company, regardless of where the data center is physically located

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."

                                Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.

                                I took a screenshot from https://clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).

                                The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫

                                lazysupper@famichiki.jpL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #88

                                @_elena
                                Why tf does it show who blocks a user? Is that a standard feature of bsky?

                                crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC foundseed@spore.socialF 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                                • lazysupper@famichiki.jpL lazysupper@famichiki.jp

                                  @_elena
                                  Why tf does it show who blocks a user? Is that a standard feature of bsky?

                                  crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #89

                                  @lazysupper @_elena I don't really know but it makes sense based on the decentralized nature of the protocol. The block v. mute must be similar to here in that if they're muted I just don't see anything by them but if I block they can't see me either.

                                  To do that in a decentralized system you'd have to get every server that shows your stuff to not show it to them. To do that you have to tell the server that you want that done. This is going to be public info because you want all servers.

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                                  • martyh@cobolworx.socialM martyh@cobolworx.social

                                    @_elena Good advice. I do the same here. That way it is a private personal choice.

                                    foundseed@spore.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #90

                                    @martyh @_elena mastodon doesn't have any apps that publish who blocked who, which is why this person has to inform people that blue sky does. You can do as you please, here.

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                                    • u_urban@social.tchncs.deU u_urban@social.tchncs.de

                                      @_elena
                                      Better:
                                      Leave for a better neighbourhood

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                                      #91

                                      @u_urban personally, i'm in a better neighborhood already (fedi), but sadly a large number of artists/makers/etc are now solely on bluesky (or are on other awful sites like Instagram).

                                      It's partially sunk cost fallacy, because i'd rather not lose out on following these folks, but also how am I supposed to "force their hand" to move...

                                      I have no financial connection to staying on Bluesky, but a social one (same with Instagram, you won't get nearly as much info on local events if you're not on there.....)

                                      Change is hard idk sorry for the ramt

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                                      • lazysupper@famichiki.jpL lazysupper@famichiki.jp

                                        @_elena
                                        Why tf does it show who blocks a user? Is that a standard feature of bsky?

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                                        #92

                                        @lazysupper @_elena it's a third party app that is in popular usage- I use it, it tells you when people put you on lists, which is not a vanilla notification either.

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                                        • canleaf@mastodon.socialC canleaf@mastodon.social

                                          @_elena I am staying here. No Stasi, no Nazis, no AfD, no ICE, no DHS, no CDU, no CCP….problem solved.

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                                          #93
                                          @canleaf@mastodon.social @_elena@mastodon.social There is definitely some CDU here, but I actually like what that person writes (and it's definitely not 100% CDU mainstream).
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