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People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions.

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  • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

    People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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    @bert_hubert
    Hoe is het ondertussen met de belastingdienst?

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    • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

      People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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      #5

      @bert_hubert My 🇸🇪 municipality is all in on Microsoft all the things and just concluded a Copilot trial, send help!

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      • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

        People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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        #6

        @bert_hubert Same here in germany. Our state would just collapse.

        OTOH, we also have soo much outdated on-prem stuff, we might just be fine ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

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        • lenni@chaos.socialL lenni@chaos.social

          @bert_hubert Same here in germany. Our state would just collapse.

          OTOH, we also have soo much outdated on-prem stuff, we might just be fine ¯\\_(ツ)_/¯

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          @lenni yes this is our only hope 😉

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          • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

            People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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            @bert_hubert all Brazilian federal government runs on either Microsoft, AWS or Google. We're fucked

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            • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

              People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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              @bert_hubert I sincerely hope that these using American clouds at least have local backups of all data, so they can set up european services lateron (after the fact).

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              • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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                • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

                  Dieser Beitrag wurde gelöscht!

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                  @energisch_ @bert_hubert yes, for instance there are international, US based pharma groups delivering vital HIV medication (as in treatment for HIV positive as well as preventative drugs for HIV negative people) to the world.

                  If these would be to retreat from European markets it could cripple TasP and prevention efforts.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbbVie

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Myers_Squibb

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_%26_Johnson

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilead_Sciences

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_%26_Co.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viatris

                  #actupagain #aids #hiv

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                  • chrisuplus@chaos.socialC chrisuplus@chaos.social

                    @energisch_ @bert_hubert yes, for instance there are international, US based pharma groups delivering vital HIV medication (as in treatment for HIV positive as well as preventative drugs for HIV negative people) to the world.

                    If these would be to retreat from European markets it could cripple TasP and prevention efforts.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbbVie

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Myers_Squibb

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson_%26_Johnson

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilead_Sciences

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merck_%26_Co.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viatris

                    #actupagain #aids #hiv

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                    • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                      People, with #Greenland raising awareness of our massive 24/7 dependence on US clouds for vital services, I made a list of what (government) stuff would break here under US sanctions. It is EXTREMELY depressing. Can I suggest that people also make a list like this one for their own countries? It is getting quite some traction here: https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/dashboard-amerikaanse-afhankelijkheden/

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                      #13

                      @bert_hubert
                      WRT Canada's reliance on American companies (AWS, Google, Cloudflare, etc) for online government services ☝️

                      It's depressing. Not going to bother with an analysis; 🇨🇦 is screwed

                      I recommend we find a way to collaborate with EU efforts to build online infrastructure independent of American control.

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                      • mfierst@mstdn.socialM mfierst@mstdn.social

                        @bert_hubert
                        Hoe is het ondertussen met de belastingdienst?

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                        @mfierst En de SVB? @bert_hubert

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                        • energisch_@troet.cafeE energisch_@troet.cafe

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                          @energisch_ I've not the slightest idea whether it's even possible to buy enough in advance to provide currently treated and any surplus which may come on top after diagnosis. Especially in light of rising infection rates globally due to war and other socioeconomic factors. What's definitely at risk are treatment options. One does not tolerate each available regimen and some got resistant virus in their DNA, so already have limited options. Need production long term.

                          @EUCommission @bert_hubert

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                          • chrisuplus@chaos.socialC chrisuplus@chaos.social

                            @energisch_ I've not the slightest idea whether it's even possible to buy enough in advance to provide currently treated and any surplus which may come on top after diagnosis. Especially in light of rising infection rates globally due to war and other socioeconomic factors. What's definitely at risk are treatment options. One does not tolerate each available regimen and some got resistant virus in their DNA, so already have limited options. Need production long term.

                            @EUCommission @bert_hubert

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