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This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

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  • edgeofeurope@mastodon.socialE edgeofeurope@mastodon.social

    @futurebird This is so important. We know who the people who ran the Nazi camps were: school masters, shop assistants, public servants. People like you and me.
    But we call them monsters to avoid having to face the fact that we could have been them.

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    #32

    @edgeofeurope @futurebird

    Or maybe we keep calling them monsters, because that's what they are. We *couldn't* be them, we *wouldn't* try to have a pre-school child deported. We shouldn't tolerate their poison amongst us.

    We just have to recalibrate our intuition about how many monsters there are, is all. Just because they do normal jobs and wear a normal face doesn't mean they are us.

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

      He records them and shares it with the world.

      What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

      Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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      #33

      @futurebird what awful people

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        What disturbs me is the total lack of urgency and confidence in these “reporters” as soon as Ben simply describes what they are doing “so you are reporting this person so they will be removed from the country” they put all of the responsibility on him (one caller says “isn’t that what we are doing?)

        People scoff at insects following pheromone trails but the average ant puts more thought into her next action than some of these people. “The government says report these people better do it”

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        #34

        @futurebird tldr; racism is a knee-jerk thing

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

          He records them and shares it with the world.

          What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

          Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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          #35

          @futurebird

          I wish I could call from a US number, or something, so we can flood the real tip lines with false information.

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

            He records them and shares it with the world.

            What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

            Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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            #36

            @futurebird

            Not all heroes wear capes. God bless this videographer

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            • ignova@mstdn.caI ignova@mstdn.ca

              @futurebird some humans set a pretty low bar for what could be considered conscious thought

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              #37

              @ignova @futurebird "humans"? They are MAGAts.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                He records them and shares it with the world.

                What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                #38

                @futurebird
                The death in Ben Palmers eyes. Several years ago this guy realized he can pretend to be "official" accounts for a laugh and this is where he's ended up.

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  Is not like they call in, crying and in distress having been menaced by some horrible gang— no it’s a literal child trying their best to learn the damn alphabet— and this lady is like “oh he’s kinda different better call the government”

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                  #39

                  @futurebird

                  I listened to the first half of this, and the caller used school resources to look up the ethnicities of the child's parents so she could report them. Don't report any data to school!

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                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                    This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                    He records them and shares it with the world.

                    What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                    Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                    #40

                    @futurebird

                    We Germans remember very well, how those people sound, when fascism is over.

                    "Nobody knew, what they were doing."
                    "I've always tried to fight back."
                    "We had no choice, but obey."
                    "But he promised more, better jobs."
                    etc.

                    The same we still hear from communist collaborators from eastern Germany.

                    Mark my words, this is, what you'll hear as well. It's always the same, no matter which color the oppressor uses as justification.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      Is not like they call in, crying and in distress having been menaced by some horrible gang— no it’s a literal child trying their best to learn the damn alphabet— and this lady is like “oh he’s kinda different better call the government”

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                      #41

                      @futurebird
                      Yes, and then she's hypersensitive to the perceived sarcasm towards herself... Racist bigot. She should not be allowed anywhere near children. 😠

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                      • fedithing@social.chinwag.orgF fedithing@social.chinwag.org

                        @futurebird

                        Horrifying, horrifying 😞

                        It's so difficult to understand what is driving someone like this. How was it harming her life or anyone's life that the child's parents were in the same country as her?

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                        #42

                        @FediThing @futurebird It's the idea that because they're here "illegally", she thinks that they and their child are "undeserving" -- note her "taking up resources from the county" line.

                        She's one of those people that think that educating a child is an "expense" rather than an investment.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                          He records them and shares it with the world.

                          What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                          Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                          #43

                          @futurebird I won’t watch the video for my own MH today, but some “regular” people have such capacity for evil, and even more when they can be anonymous.

                          I remember about 10 years ago when I was with some neighbors and they were all banging on about immigrants this and immigrants that. I said “I’m an immigrant” and they said, oh, not you. I’m white. I knew exactly what they meant by that, and I knew they couldn’t be trusted.

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                          • faraiwe@mstdn.socialF faraiwe@mstdn.social

                            @ignova @futurebird "humans"? They are MAGAts.

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                            #44

                            @faraiwe @ignova @futurebird dehumanizing the dehumanizers is not the own you think it is

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                            • andyinabox@mastodon.socialA andyinabox@mastodon.social

                              @faraiwe @ignova @futurebird dehumanizing the dehumanizers is not the own you think it is

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                              #45

                              @andyinabox@mastodon.social defending magats is much worse.

                              Blocked.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                                He records them and shares it with the world.

                                What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                                Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                                #46

                                @futurebird I can just imagine what spurred on this teacher to do this, it wasn't her rigid application of the law or her moral obligation. It was something even more simple... like she seen the mother or father turn up in a car that she couldn't afford or else she seen the child get better care taken of than she ever got. Envy is a powerful motivator on the weak minded and insecure.

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                                • petealexharris@mastodon.scotP petealexharris@mastodon.scot

                                  @edgeofeurope @futurebird

                                  Or maybe we keep calling them monsters, because that's what they are. We *couldn't* be them, we *wouldn't* try to have a pre-school child deported. We shouldn't tolerate their poison amongst us.

                                  We just have to recalibrate our intuition about how many monsters there are, is all. Just because they do normal jobs and wear a normal face doesn't mean they are us.

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                                  #47

                                  @petealexharris @futurebird The monsters are humans, and we are *not* better than they are. That is my point.
                                  They come from among us, they have been raised in our societies, they are monsters of our own making.

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                                  • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                    This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                                    He records them and shares it with the world.

                                    What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                                    Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                                    #48

                                    @futurebird I also an choosing not to watch for now but I'm curious if anyone knows whether that teacher was reported to their school district.

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                                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                      This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                                      He records them and shares it with the world.

                                      What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                                      Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                                      #49

                                      @futurebird is this real? I don’t want to criticise good work, but the audio quality is so high, is it really a call? Are people really this horrid??

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                                      • su_g@aus.socialS su_g@aus.social

                                        @futurebird
                                        Yes, and then she's hypersensitive to the perceived sarcasm towards herself... Racist bigot. She should not be allowed anywhere near children. 😠

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                                        #50

                                        @futurebird @Su_G
                                        The sarcasm was very slight, he just repeated her words, she knew it was terrible. It is terrible

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          This guy named Ben Palmer made an "Immigration tip line" and people call it thinking he's ICE.

                                          He records them and shares it with the world.

                                          What do people sound like when reporting their neighbors, coworkers, students? Are they confident they are doing a righteous good thing?

                                          Witness the banality of evil in these sheepish suburban voices.

                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJnkikcrHA0

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                                          #51

                                          @futurebird it's things like these that make me despise our species. I mean seriously 😳.

                                          Can you imagine a gazelle in Tanzania calling a lion hotline saying "can you go eat this gazelle", it has a kid but I don't think it's from here. I think it crossed from Kenya. I don't like it.

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