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  • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

    I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

    → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
    → 30-41% increase in technical debt
    → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
    → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

    We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

    mlevison@agilealliance.socialM airwhale@beige.partyA lunaticdancer@mastodon.gamedev.placeL oschonrock@mastodon.socialO piper@lgbtqia.spaceP 14 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

      The bottleneck was never writing code. It's understanding what to build.

      If you're using AI coding tools, focus on:
      • Smaller features (if it's 1000 lines, it's too big to review)
      • Clear acceptance criteria before you prompt
      • Tests first, AI-generated code second
      • Security audits (AI can't do this)

      More code isn't the goal. Solving real problems is.

      mlevison@agilealliance.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      Full analysis:
      https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_campaign=archive-reshare

      #AI #AIinSoftwareDevelopment

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      • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

        AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

        I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

        → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
        → 30-41% increase in technical debt
        → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
        → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

        We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

        mlevison@agilealliance.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        The bottleneck was never writing code. It's understanding what to build.

        If you're using AI coding tools, focus on:
        • Smaller features (if it's 1000 lines, it's too big to review)
        • Clear acceptance criteria before you prompt
        • Tests first, AI-generated code second
        • Security audits (AI can't do this)

        More code isn't the goal. Solving real problems is.

        mlevison@agilealliance.socialM weddige@gruene.socialW 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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        • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

          AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

          I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

          → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
          → 30-41% increase in technical debt
          → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
          → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

          We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

          airwhale@beige.partyA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @mlevison

          Amen to that, brother…

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          • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

            AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

            I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

            → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
            → 30-41% increase in technical debt
            → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
            → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

            We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

            lunaticdancer@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @mlevison so true, it astounds me people didn't see this coming from the start. Also there's the cognitive deterioration double whammy.

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            • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

              AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

              I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

              → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
              → 30-41% increase in technical debt
              → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
              → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

              We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

              oschonrock@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @mlevison

              That's my experience too.

              Dave Farley's. MSE channe, which I usually respect,l recently claimed the opposite though, based on a study they took part in.

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              • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                #7

                @mlevison Goodhart's law in action. Actually, I'm not sure it even is an example of Goodhart's law. Raw quantity of code output would never have correlated strongly with quality. What do they think they're doing‽

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                • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                  AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                  I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                  → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                  → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                  → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                  → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                  We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

                  crackhappy@cyberpunk.lolC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @mlevison I use LLMs to help me with basic code writing tasks, generating the structural frameworks, saving me a lot of typing time. However, I never rely on that code out of the box, I always review it thoroughly and often just snip and prune. I would never attempt to give an LLM a complicated set of instructions, it's going to fail every time.

                  crackhappy@cyberpunk.lolC project1enigma@chaos.socialP 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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                  • crackhappy@cyberpunk.lolC crackhappy@cyberpunk.lol

                    @mlevison I use LLMs to help me with basic code writing tasks, generating the structural frameworks, saving me a lot of typing time. However, I never rely on that code out of the box, I always review it thoroughly and often just snip and prune. I would never attempt to give an LLM a complicated set of instructions, it's going to fail every time.

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                    #9

                    @mlevison Intellisense, pretti, etc. are all just tools for a smart developer.

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                    • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                      AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                      I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                      → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                      → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                      → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                      → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                      We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

                      thirstybear@agilodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @mlevison I hear you. I am seeing it first hand. And I am being hammered for pointing this out and encouraging caution, while others are being rewarded for shipping 💩 “because AI”.

                      Just call me ‘Cassandra’ 🤷‍♂️

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                      • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                        Full analysis:
                        https://agilepainrelief.com/blog/ai-generated-code-quality-problems/?utm_source=mastodon&utm_campaign=archive-reshare

                        #AI #AIinSoftwareDevelopment

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                        #11

                        @mlevison This talk on AI productivity from a Stanford researcher goes into detail on this. Really interesting and gels with what you're saying: the actual productivity gains tended to be with simple (low-complexity, greenfield) tasks rather than anything bigger or more complex. https://youtu.be/tbDDYKRFjhk?si=AM5DPcJGeg_3ignp

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                        • crackhappy@cyberpunk.lolC crackhappy@cyberpunk.lol

                          @mlevison Intellisense, pretti, etc. are all just tools for a smart developer.

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                          #12

                          @crackhappy @mlevison Jetbrains vanilla Intellisense was pretty good even before the latest epidemic of AI psychosis.

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                          • thirstybear@agilodon.socialT thirstybear@agilodon.social

                            @crackhappy @mlevison Jetbrains vanilla Intellisense was pretty good even before the latest epidemic of AI psychosis.

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                            #13

                            @thirstybear @mlevison I refuse to call what we currently have "Artificial Intelligence" because it is not. It's a fundamentally clever implementation of Markov chains with way way too much power applied.

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                            • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                              AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                              I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                              → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                              → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                              → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                              → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                              We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                              #14

                              @mlevison
                              l suspect the line about the volume of code increase is conservative.

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                              • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                                AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                                I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                                → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                                → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                                → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                                We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                                #15

                                @ivanmorgillo What's your experience about this?

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                                • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                                  AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                                  I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                                  → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                                  → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                  → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                                  → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                                  We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

                                  enigma@norden.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @mlevison Question : would have moonlanding been also a success if AI would have had control ? 😄

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                                  • enigma@norden.socialE enigma@norden.social

                                    @mlevison Question : would have moonlanding been also a success if AI would have had control ? 😄

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                                    #17

                                    @mlevison We may remember the iconic foto of dear Margaret Hamilton stood beside a pile of papers of machine code for the AGC computer . What if AI would have programmed it ? A late competition would be enlightened about mankind’s biggest challenge last century 😇

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                                    • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                                      AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                                      I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                                      → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                                      → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                      → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                                      → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                                      We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                                      #18

                                      @mlevison I don't think any AI can write code worse than Windows, though. Just saying.

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                                      • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                                        AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                                        I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                                        → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                                        → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                        → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                                        → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                                        We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                                        #19

                                        @mlevison @Em0nM4stodon
                                        → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                        😱

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                                        • mlevison@agilealliance.socialM mlevison@agilealliance.social

                                          AI is making us write more code. That's the problem.

                                          I analyzed research papers on AI-generated code quality. The findings:

                                          → 1.7x more issues than human-written code
                                          → 30-41% increase in technical debt
                                          → 39% increase in cognitive complexity
                                          → Initial speed gains disappear within a few months

                                          We're building the wrong thing faster and calling it productivity.

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                                          #20

                                          @mlevison Echoes of the mountains of boilerplate crap churned out towards the height of the .com bubble 😄

                                          Pay by the SLOC, get more SLOC. Whether it does anything useful or not.

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