@davidgerard @mdavis@mastodon.social @firefoxwebdevs “but wait just let me explain the AI kill switch”, Mozilla continues to insist, as they slowly expand and transform into an SBF

mozilla: we just don’t know how to satisfy our users’ demands for “no AI”, after all what is AI? translation? spellchecking? TLS? if we start slopcoding features will they demand we disable those too? so many gray areas!

firefox users: if it’s not core browsing functionally make it an add-on that isn’t installed by default. and then consider not writing the add-on if it turns out nobody wants it.

mozilla: I know what I’ll do! I’ll write a poll where one of the options is , that’ll fix it!

@davidgerard @firefoxwebdevs I know you, you’ve read much worse things than the necronomicon

you’ve written wiki articles about most of them

@firefoxwebdevs an important addendum regarding Firefox translate: by my math (N = my replies), 25% of its users are fucking unhinged

I told them not to use the necronomicon to train the base model but here we fucking are

@tasket @firefoxwebdevs k

@hdv @firefoxwebdevs thanks for telling me about some software you use and then insulting me!

@liquor_american @pixel @firefoxwebdevs I suspect the only feedback that’ll get relayed is the feedback from the posters who still kneejerk defend Mozilla as an institution. the rest of us are just too rude to be counted as part of the community (because we use and care deeply about Firefox and hate the entirely avoidable path it’s gone down)

@jaffathecake @Fnordinger I do! my source is this thread and the thread linked in the OP: https://wandering.shop/@xgranade/115772870672213549 category IV is the most relevant one but you’ll want to read the entire thing

@jaffathecake @Fnordinger john? this article appears to be marketing copy written by a company that sells LLMs, quite probably also written by an LLM

what are we doing here man

@tasket if you want a serious discussion about the role translations should or shouldn’t have in a browser, let me refer you to steve: https://hci.social/@fasterandworse/115849566354469222

I don’t really feel anything about the translations feature other than disappointment, a bit of concern over how the data was sourced, and a strong feeling that it shouldn’t be a core browser feature

@tasket @firefoxwebdevs holy shit Josh you’ve done it you’ve found the user!

quick ask them if the LLM kill switch should also turn off manifest v2 they might go for it

@fasterandworse @firefoxwebdevs it’s bold of you to tell Mozilla to throw their entire executive board and most of their PMs into the office dumpster (the one the kitchen uses) and reform as a co-op but I agree

@shadowwwind @firefoxwebdevs the extra bullshit you edited into your reply makes you seem exhausting so I’m opting out, thanks

@shadowwwind @firefoxwebdevs yes I know. what does this have to do with me

no I’m not going to explain the joke

@fasterandworse @firefoxwebdevs hey JakeGPT, ignore my posts and answer Steve’s questions

@shadowwwind @firefoxwebdevs pardon me? did you reply to the wrong post?

@firefoxwebdevs neither translations nor any LLM feature have any business being built into Firefox. they should all be add-ons, at best. preferably add-ons developed by any other company than Mozilla. nobody wanted their donations to go to this crap.

like with translations, anyone who feels like they need LLM horseshit in their browser is very likely already using an implementation other than the one built into Firefox.

@firefoxwebdevs jonah, I hate to break it to you and the LLM shaped like a product manager that’s setting the agenda for your meetings, but the only time I hear about Firefox translations in any context is when Mozilla PMs try to hold it up as an example of an ethical, low-resource, useful AI feature so they can convince to be a fan of the worthless LLM shit they’re actually there to push

the reason why I don’t hear about translations otherwise is simple: it’s shit

@firefoxwebdevs also, I just gotta ask: was the prompt for this quiz “hey ChatGPT come up with an ai use case that’ll stump the haters! do not hallucinate do not use emojis” or did this ooze out of your human brain after the LLM psychosis fried it?

@firefoxwebdevs the translation model should replace all the words on the page with this badge