@bearmine @gustav they also have some basic manipulation on the roadmap. Not Lightroom but still!

https://immich.app/roadmap

@hannahpatellis oooooooo

@metaphase don't know about iPhone but I'm syncing multiple Android devices right now and it's fine!

I followed the Docker Compose instructions, but subbed Podman for Docker and so far I've hit no snags!

I finally installed Immich this weekend, and oh my gourd is it awesome.

https://immich.app/

@volpeon OK so I don't literally mean "quit using GNOME if you dislike one or two things", I mean "rather than bring vitriol into a conversation, consider investing that time and energy in a new tool".

I often say "if you don't like it, don't use it" as a shorthand because we're blessed for choice here in the Linux ecosystem, unlike other desktop computing platforms.

@VampirePenguin my read on the proposal is this would be an option, which defaults to "off" and can be turned on by the user. IMO that's a reasonable proposal.

@rappscal I tend to agree, put it in the settings app, *and* I'd argue that the best behavior would be to only disable it on fresh installs, not change it on an upgrade (I don't know how feasible that is, I'm not a GNOME dev).

@glent what?

@glent "its role in the failure of desktop Linux"

That's a GIGANTIC assumption. And is insulting to the hard working people who work on GNOME, many of whom had nothing to do with those so-called "insular design choices".

It's open source, you can't force a team to do things your way. GNOME's foundation led to wonderful projects like Cinnamon, and I'd argue that the diversification has been a strength.

IMO it's all needless harping on folks who have different opinions.

@thesaigoneer lolol

@bruce sorry I misread you, I have folks actually being kind of jerks in some of these replies so it's hard to filter facetiousness from everything else.

@bruce is that what I said? How are you reading any of that from what I said?

It's a proposal to change a setting which is known to trip folks up and cause issues. To make something "opt-in" instead of foisted on folks. Many, many mice put the middle click in the scroll wheel and it causes headaches for some.

It's a reasonable proposal to be debated, and making it sound like GNOME is some sort of anti-user cabal is just silly at best, malicious at worst.

@zoeyTheWitch ugh, I'm sorry for the crap you all put up with. FWIW I love GNOME and use it regularly.

@scy big same. I mostly alternate between Plasma and GNOME based on what task I'm doing on what machine. Both are great, both have rough spots.

@bruce I really don't think it can be "done away with" logistically, more likely would be hidden behind an extension or a Tweaks toggle (which IMO is a reasonable compromise).

Too many people like the feature for it to be in any real danger.

@dcbaok I don't understand why you fear it being disabled entirely?

In GNOME at least, there's a billion extensions for fixing things, and a feature this popular almost certainly can't be gotten rid of completely.

I think that fear is irrational considering the actual proposal and the reality of how Linux is made.

@theodric it's just a desktop, no need to get insulting

@scruss no. Don't get emotionally charged about it.

It's a design choice. Your emotions shouldn't matter, just choose something different. Run a command to add the feature back.

I'm not saying don't have opinions. I'm saying, emphatically, that getting emotionally charged about it is, in fact, a bad thing.

@thomasfuchs UnUSaBLe