Hi @uriel@keinpfusch.net , you really diverge from the topic

no. We have a developer who is telling you is configurable with a single click, and he even took screenshots. You substantiated nothing. Or, well, you tried to substantiate using this 50% / 50% assumption, just because you have no data. This is not "base for discussion", 'cause is just WRONG. "I don't know" is not "50% true". Is not "a base for discussion": is just bovine output.

About 50% / 50%. I made a hypothetical situation as basis for discussion

Again this? Everything is hypothetical for you is 50% / 50%?

My honest opinion is that it is something like 98% PRO, 2% CON this feature for all users that ever willingly/accidental discovered this feature.

this is like, you know, just your opinion, man.



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Thanks @uriel@keinpfusch.net, I am not talking about a mouse click.

You realize this is exactly what the discussion is about, right?

I point to a potential mistake to disable this feature, as it is a strength, not a weakness to have it by default.

Look, I've read a --developer-- of Gnome, saying you can configure it with a click. He even posted screenshot.
It is not --disabled-- is just configurable.

The first time I installed Linux I had to specify the horizontal frequency of the DAC in my graphical card, and now you tell me one click is "disabled"?

Ok, right. Let me ask first: do you have both arms, and both hands? Second, all your fingers are ok? If you are fingers-challenged, then you are right.

? . I am giving some evidence that this educated-guess-based decision might be wrong.

Nope. What I see is, you assume 50% true and 50% false, just because you have no numbers. And you do it in front of a mathematician. And maybe other matematicians are also looking. Do you know how delicate and sensitive we are, to this kind of "educated guess"? I feel bad, already. OMG! Someone calls an ambulance!

I suggest you do NOT pick "bookmaker" as your next career. Assuming 50%/50% may not, how to say, be the most "educated" way to do it.

CC: @ebassi@mastodon.social

I highly repect the people working on Gnome, that's why I use it.

One of two is true.

However, in this case, not one provide any form of evidence that this feature is not useful or not used, and no evidence that an unexpected number of people are confused by this feature.

This is what adults call "making a decision". And again, you're arguing about ONE mouse click. Do you realize how MUCH LONGER this argument has taken compared to the time it takes to click, do you?

CC: @ebassi@mastodon.social

Let's assume that this feature is useful for 50% and not useful for the other 50%. How can we satisfy both needs? Something like a gsetting is no solution. I have not idea how to do something like this.

You just click on a button. This is how. I am pretty sure you are strong enough to survive the effort.

CC: @ebassi@mastodon.social

Then I shut up. My Gen Z colleagues have already bestowed upon me the glorious title of "Der Musolini," merely because I have the audacity to dismiss such existential crises with observations like "your mouse is perfectly capable of surviving this ordeal."

Besides, I doubt they even KNOW what "Der Musolini" refers to:

https://youtu.be/wrtvEwitEDs?si=LDJ3oAqb1tILRuAn

Okkkk... This leaves me wondering: what precisely are we discussing? A single click within some GNOME Tweaks panel?

Then simply make it configurable. The "telemetry-driven" approach may suit corporate environments, but I find it rather troubling that one might be unable to use their PDP-11 simply because no one else in the vicinity does the same. Everyone should have the freedom to run a PDP-11 at home.