@egoldblatt @pafurijaz

That's probably true. But the idea that a community can only exist as long as huge numbers of people are providing their labor for free is a huge problem. I think people need to get used to the idea of paying for open source software, we pay for everything else that we find useful and if Linux is worthwhile we should be willing to pay for this as well.

@paul @Greylinux @jonah

I think Jonah has being sarcastic there. Like, yes, technically you could use a non-VPN VPN, but its still basically a VPN and if VPNs are banned, would probably still be illegal enough if whatever government is in power ever needs a pretext to just grab you.

@davbram @sawaba @pluralistic@mamot.fr @iFixit

That's one of the strangest parts of all this, at least to me, if one customer wants an absolutely massive order that might tank the business if it doesn't get paid for, then they have to pay up front for it, doesn't it just make sense?