@petrillic but what about THE BEANS?!?!!!!!!

@jwildeboer it's impossible for lithium ion cells to last longer than 10 years under discharge and recharging until they're nonfunctional. The only option is to ditch lithium ion and create a better cell or go to hydrogen. Hydrogen is a much better alternative just because any gasser can be converted to run off hydrogen. No more mining for finite resources just water and baking soda electrified to separate oxygen from hydrogen and you'll still get the glorious sound of a gas engine.

@jwildeboer most vapes use 18650 through 12700 cells, 3 companies make them. They're the exact same batteries mostly LG & Samsung because they are A bin cells. Ones that don't qualify for A bin get sold off to smaller companies to rebrand them because either LG, Samsung, or Sony don't feel safe putting their name on them over them being defective. But what do I know I'm just a gasser and EV mechanic.

@jwildeboer untrue they use the same cells as box mod vapes that at most will last 5 years until half the capacity is gone. But to be fair modern vehicles are designed to be thrown away and still be able to charge price wise as much as possible. Any vehicle from 2026 would at longest last 15 years. My gasser is 31 years old and it's just gotten broken in engine wise.