@xurizaemon haha you're on the money tho for real!

@xurizaemon oh good point, I should really have been looking into which ones were european too!

@maswan honestly I'm quite surprised there's no community fork maintained just yet, seems ripe for the taking

@coffeegm well I have to say this is one of the most fishy things a website has ever asked me

@coffeegm nice, first I've heard. I'll.check it out and add to the thread

@maswan tbf might be that https://github.com/RocketChat/rocketchat-compose doesn't allow the "community" edition easilt

@maswan Curious if you can help - I booted up a self-hosted RC instance and didn't really get a chance to sign up to a plan or not, but it's very unclear to me which "plan" I'm on, and the admin page shows only 50 "seats" available.

Any idea how to use the "Community" plan?

@zeank I've given it a tinker and it seems like self-hosting is quite involved.

The public instance is fascinating, but I'm also not sure what Movim really *is*. Like it's simultaniously chat and a news aggregator?

Do you use it? Would love to hear from folks who do.

For others reaching the end of this thread I want to call out the wonderful and similar work over on this blog post: https://taggart-tech.com/discord-alternatives/

Goes into a bunch more detail and has different priorities to me so may well fit your needs better.

@maikel external channels. The way federation works in Matrix is that the homeserver you connect to is the one serving you channels, even if those channels are on other servers. This generally means that a homeserver has to "host" the data and messages in those channels too.

Fwiw though others have clarified in the replies that you can tweak this a little and it can be less of an issue in practice!

@lenzgr @mttaggart yup! They're down elsewhere in the replies

@lenzgr confusingly I thought someone else pointed this out last night and I'd corrected already!

@lenzgr oh sure I'll correct

@maswan I'm kind of surprised a fork hasn't popped up tbh. Anyway yeah thanks for the info?

@maswan oh interesting - I didn't discover this when looking into it - what're the limitations?

@KarlHeinzHasliP thanks! I came across it but put it under the Signal/Telegram/Threema bucket in that it's not really a community building platform

@bekopharm @philipdrobar I guess I should clarify. For me I'm totally fine paying for something (I've now paid for Threema to try it out!) but I want communities to be open and have minimal barriers of entry.

@esoteric_programmer love it, thanks. Will absolutely be getting to know draupnir

@zeank hadn't heard of it but will be checking it out!

@androcat awesome write up. Annoyed I didn't find it the first go-around