@bob_zim @jwildeboer Yes, I would agree current designs are not designed for longevity. I am very concerned about all of the gadget grade electronics. I expect the nightmare of things like the Apple Carplay compatibility nightmare to get worse. The tendency has been to load up all cars with gadgets.

@jwildeboer I like a different conception of the EV. My industrial 3 phase motors a bomb proof, they last decades. I think the mechanicals of an EV can be profoundly more simple and durable that internal combustion vehicles. I am okay with the idea of leasing a battery and replacing it periodically. I think the focus should on standardization, re-use and recycle of batteries and the EV vehicle should be lifetime hardware.