@kupac @IngridHbn on the one hand this reply matches my experience, but on the other i've noticed a lot of normies are much, much more hasty and brutal with things who may benefit from this

@txtx @mhoye the "veri" part is already problematic*

having these centralized authorities to establish identity is indistinguishable from having these centralized authorities dictate identity

there are better models of steering people away from abuse that do not involve creating more systems that become more chokepoints for abusers to exploit once they find their way in (as they have now, and curiously just in time for these chokepoints to be promoted)

*EDIT: and also the "fication" part
https://www.etymonline.com/word/verify
> from Medieval Latin verificare "make true,"