@Edent oh I know how you work by now ;]

my faves are mostly mentioned, but would be: overcooked, heavenly bodies, human fall flat, any lego game ;]

@Edent lots of good ideas already here. if you want to check them and/or find new ones, there is https://www.co-optimus.com/games.php

you can filter by "PS5", "couch co-op", and sort by user rating, etc.

I have found many couch co-op games I have come to treasure this way :]

@blinry ah, I hadn't thought about master slide. the "workaround" would seem to be yes, creating a tiled clone

@blinry ah, yeah. I guess you have to create a page at the end, hope your pages are 1 dimensional, do a multi-select, and move all after your desired page, snapping or something ... yes a "insert page" would be nicer

for animations, I would imagine, e.g., "slide 3" takes "page 3", filters all objects that are not inside the page bbox, and (as you said) if they're on separate layers, determine if and what to animate from those layer orders

@blinry this is neat 🤭 - I know in Inkscape you can also have multiple pages. could that be used too?

(then I guess the presentation would be a bit like https://revealjs.com/ 's '2D' presentations, left-right for pages and up-down for layers of animation)