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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

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  • unruhe@mastodon.socialU unruhe@mastodon.social

    @jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...

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    #22

    @unruhe I would need to check, but I'm pretty sure they are refusing FLOSS building blocks, like they did with Tchap. There are EU- and France-specific legal things pertaining to privacy and security to enforce is what I imagine (the tool was validated by ANSSI the French National Agency for Information Systems Security).

    @jim

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    • P phosphenes@mastodon.social

      @cstanhope @eparto @jim

      Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?

      if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.

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      #23

      @Phosphenes @cstanhope @jim LiveKit doesn't need AI. AI (ChatGPT) needs LiveKit.

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      • j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.socialJ j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.social

        @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

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        #24

        @j0ebaldw1n not the same use case/goal, which, afaik, makes it ok to use.

        @jim

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        • ronnylam@mastodon.socialR ronnylam@mastodon.social

          @jim and they publish it on a Microsoft platform. Why not move to Codeberg, Forgejo, or another self-hosted repository?

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          #25

          @ronnylam because when they started their repo, sovereignty was only barely finally making it to the heads of some people, and I'm not even sure codeberg was around, or at least as visible as it is today. Now the movement is picking up pace, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move their code elsewhere in the (more-or-less near) future.

          @jim

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            #26

            @gfkdsgn does Nextcloud's solution scale for thousands of users? Note that last year, despite the announcement, my understanding is that Visio didn't scale that well (but it may have been a matter of correctly provisioning the hardware for the number of users).

            @jim @nextcloud

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            • jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.org

              @ronnylam because when they started their repo, sovereignty was only barely finally making it to the heads of some people, and I'm not even sure codeberg was around, or at least as visible as it is today. Now the movement is picking up pace, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move their code elsewhere in the (more-or-less near) future.

              @jim

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              #27

              @jenesuispasgoth @jim I will sure encourage them.

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              • oantolin@mathstodon.xyzO oantolin@mathstodon.xyz

                @jim @antoinechambertloir Why did they name it after Microsoft's diagramming and flowchart application? I like the power move of just using the name of a piece of Microsoft software unchanged but why not use "Teams" which it can replace instead of "Visio" which it does not replace?

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                #28

                @oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.

                @jim @antoinechambertloir

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                • jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.org

                  @oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.

                  @jim @antoinechambertloir

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                  #29

                  @jenesuispasgoth @jim @antoinechambertloir Oh, that makes sense. I'll still tell every one that they picked the exact name of a well-known Microsoft product in a punk rock act of defiance, though.

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                  • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                    Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                    But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                    https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                    https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                    #30

                    @jim

                    visio is not for public use.

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                    • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                      Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                      But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                      https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                      https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                      #31

                      @jim is this much different from jitsi?

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                      • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                        Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                        But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                        https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                        https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                        #32

                        @jim On their Websites, the government says clearly that it is open source: "Suite #Visio. Simple. Open-source."
                        Visio website: https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/produits/visio
                        They have also new products to stop with Google & Co: mail, docs, transfer, chat: https://lasuite.numerique.gouv.fr/ and their Mastodon Channel @lasuite

                        #DINUM responsable for the #transition has an own server here: https://social.numerique.gouv.fr/about Collaborators like the @cnrs are here with several accounts.

                        #digitalsovereignty #France #CNRS #EU

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                        • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                          Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                          But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                          https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                          https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                          #33

                          @jim one of the groups behind it is doing a talk at #fosdem this week https://fosdem.org/2026/schedule/event/THRG3E-la_suite_coop_model_for_digital_commons/

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                            #34

                            @gfkdsgn These systems are intranet systems for the state and administration, and also for military. Therefore, they developped a completely independent system. https://www.numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/

                            @jim @nextcloud

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                            • P phosphenes@mastodon.social

                              @cstanhope @eparto @jim

                              Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?

                              if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.

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                              #35

                              @Phosphenes They developped French AI, placed in France, using them for subtitles and transscripts of conferences. If you know the amount of papers in French administration, this can be a help. https://www.numerique.gouv.fr/sinformer/espace-presse/souverainete-numerique-etat-visio-solution-visioconference-agents-publics/

                              @cstanhope @eparto @jim

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                              • unruhe@mastodon.socialU unruhe@mastodon.social

                                @jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...

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                                #36

                                @unruhe @jim I think the better question is how they contribute back to the open source projects they’re using. That repo shows a bunch of projects, and they have the resources to contribute back.

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                                • j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.socialJ j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.social

                                  @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

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                                  #37

                                  @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
                                  You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

                                  @jim

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                                  • ananas@scicomm.xyzA ananas@scicomm.xyz

                                    @humanhorseshoes @jim
                                    It's MIT licenced, so if you know what you're doing, yeah.

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                                    #38

                                    @ananas @humanhorseshoes @jim The linked article says no, so that's a little confusing.

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                                    • acdha@code4lib.socialA acdha@code4lib.social

                                      @unruhe @jim I think the better question is how they contribute back to the open source projects they’re using. That repo shows a bunch of projects, and they have the resources to contribute back.

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                                      #39

                                      @acdha @jim good question!

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                                      • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                                        Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                                        But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                                        https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                                        https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                                        #40

                                        RE: https://social.openrightsgroup.org/@jim/115966835615949718

                                        @jim
                                        @onepict
                                        does your project leaverage this code?

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                                        • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                                          @j0ebaldw1n Visio is a normal word in French, the abbreviation of visioconférence. Normal words can't be trademarked so easily - and they use it only for France.
                                          You can be sure that the state can afford the best solicitors. 😉

                                          @jim

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                                          #41

                                          @NatureMC @j0ebaldw1n @jim I find it very hard to believe that Microsoft doesn't already hold a trademark on the word that is valid in France.

                                          https://branddb.wipo.int/en/similarname/brand/FR501998098727661

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