Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.
The repo : Gov
supports open source!First, they should get off fucking #GitHub if they’re serious about digital sovereignty… especially operational control and hosting location. But really, why not #Jitsi?
The original press release in French https://presse.economie.gouv.fr/souverainete-numerique-letat-generalise-visio-sa-solution-de-visioconference-securisee-et-souveraine-a-destination-des-agents-publics
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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.
@jim and they publish it on a Microsoft platform. Why not move to Codeberg, Forgejo, or another self-hosted repository?
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The repo : Gov
supports open source!First, they should get off fucking #GitHub if they’re serious about digital sovereignty… especially operational control and hosting location. But really, why not #Jitsi?
The original press release in French https://presse.economie.gouv.fr/souverainete-numerique-letat-generalise-visio-sa-solution-de-visioconference-securisee-et-souveraine-a-destination-des-agents-publics
Jitsi is currently owned by 8x8, Inc., which is headquartered in Campbell, California, USA.
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Jitsi is currently owned by 8x8, Inc., which is headquartered in Campbell, California, USA.
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I was kinda sad, when I discovered a couple of weeks ago about Atlassian and now 8x8 ownership.
Many good things go to the US to die.
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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.
@jim Interesting, but a little confusing. They created an open source meeting application that requires the use of a proprietary service (one promoting "AI" agents at that)?
https://livekit.io/contact-sales
It seem they replaced one proprietary solution (Zoom) with another (LiveKit). I'm trying to figure out where LiveKit is based and who owns it.
But it is interesting news...
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@avuko There doesn’t seem to be lots of effort to promote or market Jitsi I’ve noticed. Is it because they’re focused on more niche markets? It seems to be far easier to use than zoom of teams (can you even use teams browser only these days)?
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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.
@jim @antoinechambertloir Why did they name it after Microsoft's diagramming and flowchart application? I like the power move of just using the name of a piece of Microsoft software unchanged but why not use "Teams" which it can replace instead of "Visio" which it does not replace?
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@jim Interesting, but a little confusing. They created an open source meeting application that requires the use of a proprietary service (one promoting "AI" agents at that)?
https://livekit.io/contact-sales
It seem they replaced one proprietary solution (Zoom) with another (LiveKit). I'm trying to figure out where LiveKit is based and who owns it.
But it is interesting news...
@cstanhope @jim Livekit is an open source project with Apache license.
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@cstanhope @jim Livekit is an open source project with Apache license.
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Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?
if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.
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@jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...
@unruhe I would need to check, but I'm pretty sure they are refusing FLOSS building blocks, like they did with Tchap. There are EU- and France-specific legal things pertaining to privacy and security to enforce is what I imagine (the tool was validated by ANSSI the French National Agency for Information Systems Security).
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Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?
if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.
@Phosphenes @cstanhope @jim LiveKit doesn't need AI. AI (ChatGPT) needs LiveKit.
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@jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...
@j0ebaldw1n not the same use case/goal, which, afaik, makes it ok to use.
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@jim and they publish it on a Microsoft platform. Why not move to Codeberg, Forgejo, or another self-hosted repository?
@ronnylam because when they started their repo, sovereignty was only barely finally making it to the heads of some people, and I'm not even sure codeberg was around, or at least as visible as it is today. Now the movement is picking up pace, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move their code elsewhere in the (more-or-less near) future.
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@gfkdsgn does Nextcloud's solution scale for thousands of users? Note that last year, despite the announcement, my understanding is that Visio didn't scale that well (but it may have been a matter of correctly provisioning the hardware for the number of users).
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@ronnylam because when they started their repo, sovereignty was only barely finally making it to the heads of some people, and I'm not even sure codeberg was around, or at least as visible as it is today. Now the movement is picking up pace, so I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to move their code elsewhere in the (more-or-less near) future.
@jenesuispasgoth @jim I will sure encourage them.
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@jim @antoinechambertloir Why did they name it after Microsoft's diagramming and flowchart application? I like the power move of just using the name of a piece of Microsoft software unchanged but why not use "Teams" which it can replace instead of "Visio" which it does not replace?
@oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.
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@oantolin because in French we use the name visio (short for visioconférence), and less vidéoconférence.
@jenesuispasgoth @jim @antoinechambertloir Oh, that makes sense. I'll still tell every one that they picked the exact name of a well-known Microsoft product in a punk rock act of defiance, though.
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Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty
But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.
visio is not for public use.
