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  • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

    Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

    But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

    https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

    https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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    #4

    @jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...

    jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ acdha@code4lib.socialA 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH humanhorseshoes@mastodon.world

      @jim Can any EU citizen or company use this?

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      #5

      @humanhorseshoes @jim
      It's MIT licenced, so if you know what you're doing, yeah.

      humanhorseshoes@mastodon.worldH maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM 2 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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      • ananas@scicomm.xyzA ananas@scicomm.xyz

        @humanhorseshoes @jim
        It's MIT licenced, so if you know what you're doing, yeah.

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        #6

        @ananas @jim thank you o wise pineapple

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        • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

          Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

          But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

          https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

          https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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          #7

          @jim very fediversian of them if I understand it correctly!

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          • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

            Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

            But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

            https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

            https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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            #8

            @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

            mackaj@mastodon.me.ukM jenesuispasgoth@pouet.chapril.orgJ naturemc@mastodon.onlineN 3 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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            • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

              Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

              But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

              https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

              https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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              #9

              @jim Both the french Suite Numérique and the german OpenDesk seem to be making steady progress and both claim to have an established userbase. Really interesting to see how quickly they are developing.

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              • j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.socialJ j0ebaldw1n@mastodon.social

                @jim Bold choice of them to choose a name that is trademarked by Microsoft for an existing software package that's been around since 1992...

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                #10

                @j0ebaldw1n @jim

                I think they'll be ok as (I believe) Visio is a common french abbreviation for video conference.

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                • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                  Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                  But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                  https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                  https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                  #11

                  @jim

                  The repo : Gov 🇫🇷 supports open source!

                  First, they should get off fucking #GitHub if they’re serious about digital sovereignty… especially operational control and hosting location. But really, why not #Jitsi?

                  The original press release in French https://presse.economie.gouv.fr/souverainete-numerique-letat-generalise-visio-sa-solution-de-visioconference-securisee-et-souveraine-a-destination-des-agents-publics

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                  • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                    Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                    But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                    https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                    https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                    #12

                    @jim and they publish it on a Microsoft platform. Why not move to Codeberg, Forgejo, or another self-hosted repository?

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                    • oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO oatmeal@kolektiva.social

                      @jim

                      The repo : Gov 🇫🇷 supports open source!

                      First, they should get off fucking #GitHub if they’re serious about digital sovereignty… especially operational control and hosting location. But really, why not #Jitsi?

                      The original press release in French https://presse.economie.gouv.fr/souverainete-numerique-letat-generalise-visio-sa-solution-de-visioconference-securisee-et-souveraine-a-destination-des-agents-publics

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                      #13

                      @oatmeal @jim

                      Jitsi is currently owned by 8x8, Inc., which is headquartered in Campbell, California, USA.

                      https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/29/atlassian-sells-jitsi-an-open-source-videoconferencing-tool-it-acquired-in-2015-to-8x8/

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                      • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                        @oatmeal @jim

                        Jitsi is currently owned by 8x8, Inc., which is headquartered in Campbell, California, USA.

                        https://techcrunch.com/2018/10/29/atlassian-sells-jitsi-an-open-source-videoconferencing-tool-it-acquired-in-2015-to-8x8/

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                        #14

                        @avuko didn’t know. Thanks.

                        @jim

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                        • oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO oatmeal@kolektiva.social

                          @avuko didn’t know. Thanks.

                          @jim

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                          #15

                          @oatmeal @jim

                          I was kinda sad, when I discovered a couple of weeks ago about Atlassian and now 8x8 ownership.

                          Many good things go to the US to die.

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                          • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                            Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                            But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                            https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                            https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                            #16

                            @jim Interesting, but a little confusing. They created an open source meeting application that requires the use of a proprietary service (one promoting "AI" agents at that)?

                            https://livekit.io/contact-sales

                            It seem they replaced one proprietary solution (Zoom) with another (LiveKit). I'm trying to figure out where LiveKit is based and who owns it.

                            https://livekit.io/about

                            But it is interesting news...

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                            • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                              @oatmeal @jim

                              I was kinda sad, when I discovered a couple of weeks ago about Atlassian and now 8x8 ownership.

                              Many good things go to the US to die.

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                              #17

                              @avuko There doesn’t seem to be lots of effort to promote or market Jitsi I’ve noticed. Is it because they’re focused on more niche markets? It seems to be far easier to use than zoom of teams (can you even use teams browser only these days)?

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                              • jim@social.openrightsgroup.orgJ jim@social.openrightsgroup.org

                                Great news today the French government have launched their own Visio video conferencing tool #digitalsovereignty

                                But the PR stories, while explaining it is French built, don't mention it is Open Source and based on LiveKit - so any government can reuse what they have done.

                                https://www.euronews.com/next/2026/01/27/france-to-ditch-us-platforms-microsoft-teams-zoom-for-sovereign-platform-amid-security-con

                                https://github.com/suitenumerique/meet

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                                #18

                                @jim @antoinechambertloir Why did they name it after Microsoft's diagramming and flowchart application? I like the power move of just using the name of a piece of Microsoft software unchanged but why not use "Teams" which it can replace instead of "Visio" which it does not replace?

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                                • cstanhope@social.coopC cstanhope@social.coop

                                  @jim Interesting, but a little confusing. They created an open source meeting application that requires the use of a proprietary service (one promoting "AI" agents at that)?

                                  https://livekit.io/contact-sales

                                  It seem they replaced one proprietary solution (Zoom) with another (LiveKit). I'm trying to figure out where LiveKit is based and who owns it.

                                  https://livekit.io/about

                                  But it is interesting news...

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                                  #19

                                  @cstanhope @jim Livekit is an open source project with Apache license.

                                  https://github.com/livekit/livekit

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                                  • eparto@social.vivaldi.netE eparto@social.vivaldi.net

                                    @cstanhope @jim Livekit is an open source project with Apache license.

                                    https://github.com/livekit/livekit

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                                    #20

                                    @eparto @jim Thanks. I'm finding it hard to tell from the website. It mostly seems oriented to selling their... services. I know there's a bunch of github repos, but it will take a while for me to gain an understanding of their nature and to come to conclusions as to their business models.

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                                    • cstanhope@social.coopC cstanhope@social.coop

                                      @eparto @jim Thanks. I'm finding it hard to tell from the website. It mostly seems oriented to selling their... services. I know there's a bunch of github repos, but it will take a while for me to gain an understanding of their nature and to come to conclusions as to their business models.

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                                      #21

                                      @cstanhope @eparto @jim

                                      Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?

                                      if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.

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                                      • unruhe@mastodon.socialU unruhe@mastodon.social

                                        @jim strange concept of Open Source in France. Why don't they use existing Free Software projects and give some money and help to them to increase the distance from the US? And after them all other EU countries. Moving seriously to Linux using Linux and FreeBSD servers and so on...

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                                        #22

                                        @unruhe I would need to check, but I'm pretty sure they are refusing FLOSS building blocks, like they did with Tchap. There are EU- and France-specific legal things pertaining to privacy and security to enforce is what I imagine (the tool was validated by ANSSI the French National Agency for Information Systems Security).

                                        @jim

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                                        • P phosphenes@mastodon.social

                                          @cstanhope @eparto @jim

                                          Why does a Zoom alternative need AI?

                                          if LiveKit has US AI dependencies, that defeats the whole purpose of using it.

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                                          #23

                                          @Phosphenes @cstanhope @jim LiveKit doesn't need AI. AI (ChatGPT) needs LiveKit.

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