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  • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

    #language #english

    david_megginson@mstdn.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #2

    @yogthos Fun post. I notice the dialect shifts to West Saxon near the end.

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    • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

      #language #english

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      #3

      @yogthos I was able to manage until 1500. After that it was like reading a foreign language.

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      • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

        It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

        https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

        #language #english

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        #4

        @yogthos fantastic one. enlightening as well as sobering experiment.
        would like that in other languages.

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        • samebchase@fantastic.earthS samebchase@fantastic.earth

          @yogthos I was able to manage until 1500. After that it was like reading a foreign language.

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          #5

          @samebchase I could still kinda make it out by 1400, but 1200 was where I hit a wall, it's like a whole different language all of a sudden

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          • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

            It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

            https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

            #language #english

            ferret@hub.workersofthe.worldF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #6
            @Yogthos til 1200, which checks out, cuz I studied English evolution a lot during my degree. The 13th and 14th centuries were pretty major in that regard.

            I studied Old English too, but uhhh that was a long time ago lol
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            • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

              #language #english

              missconstrue@mefi.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #7

              @yogthos That was great fun! I was good until about 1000, and then the Germanic structure was more than my Latin based brain could translate. (To be fair, I studied Middle English in uni, so I had an advantage.) Good to know our blogger is out there hunting the Master though. 🤘🏼🥳

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              • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                #language #english

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                #8

                @yogthos

                https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                schön! Das hätte ich jetzt gern auch mal in deutsch.

                Weil wir in diesem Land ja so viele Sprachreinhalter haben, die bei der kleinsten Änderung losheulen, aber die meisten davon keinen blassen Schimmer davon haben, wie viel sich in unserer Sprache bewegt hat und sich weiter bewegen wird.

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                • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                  It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                  https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                  #language #english

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                  #9

                  @yogthos @valhalla I made it to the end of 1300, but beyond that, I could decipher no more.

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                  • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                    #language #english

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                    #10

                    @yogthos Really interesting. I noticed that you can pick up pronunciation clues from the later posts and apply them to the earlier ones.

                    So " miȝt" is "might".

                    1400 is reasonably readable.

                    1300 is quite fragmentary.

                    1200 is a mess.

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                    • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                      It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                      https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                      #language #english

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                      #11

                      @yogthos Studying Anglo-Saxon in college helps 😉

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                      • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                        It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                        https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                        #language #english

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                        #12

                        @yogthos I gave up after 1400, which, as an ESL person who didn’t get the benefit of covering Chaucer in high school, I think is pretty good…

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                        • oblate@mastodon.socialO oblate@mastodon.social

                          @yogthos Really interesting. I noticed that you can pick up pronunciation clues from the later posts and apply them to the earlier ones.

                          So " miȝt" is "might".

                          1400 is reasonably readable.

                          1300 is quite fragmentary.

                          1200 is a mess.

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                          #13

                          @oblate yeah 1200 was where I hit a wall

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                          • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                            It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                            https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                            #language #english

                            david@setouchi.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #14

                            @yogthos Meh. You can make the whole thing more or less difficult depending on graphic conventions. Why use "ſ" for "s" for example? That was not a rule and it's not a difference in language just in typography. Both co-existed depending on the publisher. Same with handwritten "u" and "v" before printing.

                            Finally, between the 11th and 15th Centuries, English was not standardized at all.

                            This whole thing is more clickbait than anything accurate or historical.

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                            • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                              It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                              https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                              #language #english

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                              @yogthos back to the 1300s was ok. Then it got really hard. Helps being Scandinavian, it seems.

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                              • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                                It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                                https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                #language #english

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                                #16

                                @yogthos really struggled at 1200 but still got the message, didn't understand a thing at 1100.
                                (Non-native English speaker, though. Learned untill college)

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                                • dremmwel@eldritch.cafeD dremmwel@eldritch.cafe

                                  @yogthos really struggled at 1200 but still got the message, didn't understand a thing at 1100.
                                  (Non-native English speaker, though. Learned untill college)

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                                  #17

                                  @dremmwel 1200 was the cut off for me

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                                  • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                                    It’s a thousand years of the English language, compressed into a single blog post. Read it and notice where you start to struggle. Notice where you give up entirely.

                                    https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/how-far-back-in-time-understand-english

                                    #language #english

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                                    #18

                                    @yogthos super intéressant, malheureusement je ne suis pas assez anglophone pour percevoir l'apparition des formules désuètes au XIX, XVIII, XVII siècles, ce serait bien d'avoir cela en français.

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                                    • david@setouchi.socialD david@setouchi.social

                                      @yogthos Meh. You can make the whole thing more or less difficult depending on graphic conventions. Why use "ſ" for "s" for example? That was not a rule and it's not a difference in language just in typography. Both co-existed depending on the publisher. Same with handwritten "u" and "v" before printing.

                                      Finally, between the 11th and 15th Centuries, English was not standardized at all.

                                      This whole thing is more clickbait than anything accurate or historical.

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                                      #19

                                      @David if you bothered reading the discussion at the end, you'd actually see why they used the typography and could've saved yourself embarrassment

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                                      • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                                        @David if you bothered reading the discussion at the end, you'd actually see why they used the typography and could've saved yourself embarrassment

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                                        #20

                                        @yogthos What embarrassment? Why should I read the thing til the end if I find it unsound?

                                        Also, why the aggressive tone? Oh yes, sorry, we're on social media, where one can't disagree with someone without making it personal. I thought we were supposed to be better than that here. No?

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                                        • yogthos@social.marxist.networkY yogthos@social.marxist.network

                                          @David if you bothered reading the discussion at the end, you'd actually see why they used the typography and could've saved yourself embarrassment

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                                          #21

                                          @yogthos Okay, I read the part where they mention the use of "ſ" and there is no justification for it, it's an artifice to make the English look older than it is or something like this. Why use "ſ" and not "st" to only mention this one?

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