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As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

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  • htpcnz@mastodon.socialH htpcnz@mastodon.social

    @JulianOliver what's actually left for captain Gemini to extort from everyone once it takes over from the copilot...

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    #18

    @htpcnz An interesting take

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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

      If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

      No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

      #bigtech

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      #19

      @JulianOliver If we don't pay with money, we pay with our privacy.
      But the really bad ones take our money AND our privacy.

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

        If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

        No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

        #bigtech

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        #20

        @JulianOliver If this were justice, it would go to the American people and not the government itself.

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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

          If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

          No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

          #bigtech

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          #21

          @JulianOliver
          Corporations are lying? Really? Who would have thought of that? That means, they maybe could have lied about smoking and cancer? Or the ozone layer? Or climate change?

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

            If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

            No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

            #bigtech

            mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #22

            @JulianOliver https://www.privacyguides.org/en/

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

              If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

              No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

              https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

              #bigtech

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              #23

              @JulianOliver Yeah that is so wild to me: that people just meekishly accept this kind of thing from big corporations that would be totally unacceptable from an individual, citing they have no options. But not trusting the government at the same time. (Yes, different can of worms.)

              There are plenty of options. It seems to me the cognitive friction is just too high until they NEED to change or something 'cool' pops up. Humans are weird. #privacy #nobigtech #unplugtrump

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

                If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

                No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

                https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

                #bigtech

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                #24

                @JulianOliver If you ever needed a reason to stop using Google Chrome, this would be it.

                There are better and open source options out there!

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                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                  @rzeta0 @analogfusion What there is not however is a single unified platform 'workspace', that people have grown accustomed to like, integrating auth flow with devices & application layer & across the platform space.

                  Nextcloud, to some degree, have made headway in this regard, at least so far as the sync, drive, calendar, docs, conferencing needs cluster.

                  Implementing high-reputation & sovereign mail transport with secure webmail atop is especially tricky, which is why I teach it. 2/2

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                  #25

                  @JulianOliver @rzeta0 @analogfusion #Proton will be there when Proton Meet comes out of beta. It is full suite (well, only dice and sheets ATM but mail, calendar, drive, password manager, authenticator, VPN) and all #e2ee. And easy import from Google.

                  Only catch is that it is freemium and most people think technology should be free.
                  @protonprivacy

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    @mikebabcock Fair. Hence I used "seems". However they have not contested it with evidence, despite having hundreds of lawyers. Just simply denied wrongdoing.

                    I would not give them the benefit of the doubt. They're a mining company.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_litigation

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                    #26

                    @JulianOliver @mikebabcock I wouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt either. But I can't help wondering if they're settling this to avoid being forced to explain how it *really* works.

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

                      If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

                      No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

                      https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

                      #bigtech

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                      #27

                      @JulianOliver Trump/Epstein, Google/Meta are the symptoms of societies in moral decay. Broken financial/political systems enriching and empowering the most corrupt. Rapacious elites violating all social contracts with impunity.

                      It is a dystopic black hole but somehow we must summon the best in human nature to tunnel through and reclaim a bare minimum of decency, agency, fairness, democracy, accountability...

                      And the diverse #opensource communities have an existentially important role to play.

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        As we guessed, it seems that despite Google saying they were not making recordings of people's voices and mining them for advertisers, they were doing exactly that.

                        If it was a colleague caught wiretapping the workplace, we'd have them sacked and never speak to nor trust them again. In the case of Google, it's even more personal.

                        No Google service is free. We are the terrain they extract from. We always pay.

                        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-voice-assistant-lawsuit-settlement-68-million/

                        #bigtech

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                        #28

                        @JulianOliver Ugh.. Fines like this are just the cost of doing business for corporations like Google. Just think how much they profited from that data. We need some better way of holding them accountable.

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