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  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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    #31

    @Daojoan Very much agree. I'm a visual person, but in the sense that I scan a well organised text much, much faster than a rando with a webcam can explain it.

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    • peacegiverman@mastodon.socialP peacegiverman@mastodon.social

      @sophiarose @Daojoan I’ve found that Firefox’s picture-in-picture mode works really well in cases like this. Usually, it tricks the page that it still has focus, so the video keeps playing, but even if stops, you can resume it with PiP controls.

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      #32

      @peacegiverman @Daojoan I tried that. The javascript on the site must have been polling focus because a few seconds after restarting playback, it would pause again! At which point it was "right, this is war. I will not be beaten!" Thankfully, it was an unprotected mp4 file, so trivial to feed into vlc

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      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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        #33

        @Daojoan I like the use of #video as very short clips embedded in a text narrative or instructions, along with still #photographs.
        As used by the @bbc in the early days of the Web.
        Stills are often best for showing which part is where, video is a good way to see how someone skilled does a particular tricky move, words convey #structuredinformation, and best printed.

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        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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          #34

          @Daojoan I blame the platforms (Coursera, Udemy, etc). They all enable mediocre quality video peddlers to make a fair amount of money.

          A course-creation/monetization platform that didn't rely on video would probably be beneficial.

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          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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            #35

            @Daojoan true. I wouldn't mind so much if they didn't pad it out so much with useless ramblings just to stretch the useful bit.

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            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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              #36

              @Daojoan

              Or if you do find a written tutorial, it's written by AI, so you can't trust it.

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              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                #37

                @Daojoan

                True…

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                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                  #38

                  @Daojoan @sashabilton True. But there are exceptions.

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                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                    #39

                    @Daojoan
                    Heartily agreed! While _some_ things benefit from video (like "How do you take apart this thing?", though well made photos do the same), most things really don't need a video and bad voice over.

                    FWIW, there is this script:

                    https://github.com/obra/Youtube2Webpage

                    which converts YT videos to a series of screenshots along with the subtitled text. I have not tried it, so I don't know how well it works.

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                    • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                      The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                      #40

                      @Daojoan
                      Just right, I hate videos personally: it is heavy, breaks keyword search and version control.
                      What's even worse, I assume we talk about youtube and tiktok/reels videos.

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                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                        #41

                        @Daojoan and you listen to the annoying video that ultimately doesn't deliver

                        or, if it does, you have try to rewind to relisten to the relevant bit and always rewind too far,

                        or you try to take a screenshot of the critical part but are not allowed to.

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                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                          #42

                          @Daojoan Really annoying
                          But luckily I have found an exception for coding:
                          Codecademy

                          No video, just text and coding exercises. Directly on their platform. You code following the exercise, it corrects you and you can test yourself directly on their platform

                          I have a love/hate relationship with them: I love the fact that it is practical, no 30 minute video course, but the pace is really slow.
                          But if you want to tackle a new topic in coding, it's just great

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                          • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                            The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                            #43

                            @Daojoan
                            But every information is repeated 5 times, to get the 10 minutes video filled up.
                            With garbage.

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                            • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                              The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                              #44

                              @Daojoan We should just return to minimal text pages. No beautiful design, just straight to the point information.

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                              • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                #45

                                @Daojoan A guy I now work with documents internal procedures by linking to YT vids. I'm about ready to rewrite all our wiki pages

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                                • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                  The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                  #46

                                  @Daojoan I dont know if is this or that Discord replaced so many forums, that many problem solving answers and learning material is not searchable or will get lost forever.

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                                  • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                    The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                    #47

                                    @Daojoan No worries, we now have VibeMaster 2000™ to transform video tutorials into badly written and half-wrong written guides!

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                                    • gentlemantech@cyberplace.socialG gentlemantech@cyberplace.social

                                      @Daojoan drives me nuts. I can skim text and pick out the necessary info in seconds, but video takes *forever* even at 3x speed where they sound like rabid chipmunks

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                                      #48

                                      @GentlemanTech @Daojoan so much this. I still refuse to listen anyone waffling about when trying to find a simple tech trick, i mute & put cc's on and jump about in a video (if no text-only help available) and when i hit the right keywords start listening.

                                      I thought turning video tutorials to text would be the killer app for "ai" but meh. Maybe I should watch a video on how to vibecode a utube2txt .

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                                      • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                        The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                        #49

                                        this. and that (and the love of books in general) drives me to hoard old books like this 800-pager «workout c» sirca 1992. do i need to (re-)learn c? nope. but the thought that i could without having to subject myself to this new internet trend is warming.

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                                        • daojoan@mastodon.socialD daojoan@mastodon.social

                                          The worst thing about online learning is that everything has become a video. Every code tutorial. Every design tutorial. Nobody actually writes out a guide anymore. It's just "hey guys welcome to my tutorial" and watching 10 minutes of content that isn't remotely relevant...

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                                          #50

                                          @Daojoan I can't agree more! I in particular do best learning through text and am good at scanning a document quickly to find what I need. I hate watching videos produced by amateurs with annoying speaking habits who spend the whole video drawing imaginary circles with their cursor around the menu item they are talking about!

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