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In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

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  • mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

    I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

    #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

    mina@berlin.socialM agitatra@berlin.socialA jornfranke@mastodon.onlineJ brad@1040ste.netB 5 Antworten Letzte Antwort
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    • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

      In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

      I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

      #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

      mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      And no:

      That GnuIMP lacks a certain Photoshop® plugin, that LibreOffice might mess up a certain MS-Word® format or that your ego shooter hasn't yet been ported to Linux, are bullshit arguments.

      That people can't use a program because there haven't been the necessary resources (or lack of awareness) to make it inclusive for all people is a strong no-no.

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      • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

        In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

        I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

        #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

        agitatra@berlin.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @mina I don't think billions are necessary. I think of Affinity, an excellent suite for working with graphics and publishing. It was built as a competitor to Adobe CS, and sold for a reasonable onetime payment. It copied the Adobe original where it made sense and introduced some nice features. So, they definitely did not invest billions, IMHO more in the low millions area. Therefor I think some tens of millions would be enough with a motivated team AND no red tape. So with the EU we're doomed.

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        • agitatra@berlin.socialA agitatra@berlin.social

          @mina I don't think billions are necessary. I think of Affinity, an excellent suite for working with graphics and publishing. It was built as a competitor to Adobe CS, and sold for a reasonable onetime payment. It copied the Adobe original where it made sense and introduced some nice features. So, they definitely did not invest billions, IMHO more in the low millions area. Therefor I think some tens of millions would be enough with a motivated team AND no red tape. So with the EU we're doomed.

          mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @agitatra

          It's about the whole infrastructure, the desktop environments, the installers and especially the development tools.

          Every € invested in that would be a far more sustainable investment, than trying to build a European Google, ChatGPT, Oracle or Facebook in the hands of European billionaires instead of US-American ones.

          Money has no Motherland, anyway.

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          • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

            In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

            I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

            #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

            jornfranke@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @mina I think investments make sense, but indeed a transparent strategy where the society can contribute to on where the investment should go would help. At the moment, there is very little data on what software is critical in organisations and private households. Additionally we need to shape an idea in which direction it should go. Everyone must help here.

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            • jornfranke@mastodon.onlineJ jornfranke@mastodon.online

              @mina I think investments make sense, but indeed a transparent strategy where the society can contribute to on where the investment should go would help. At the moment, there is very little data on what software is critical in organisations and private households. Additionally we need to shape an idea in which direction it should go. Everyone must help here.

              mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jornfranke

              The thing is: This aspect is constantly overlooked, not only by governments, but also often treated very dismissively within the FOSS community.

              I only became aware of this, thanks to my bubble here.

              I really had no idea, how much better are the MacOS and Windows ecosystems in that aspect, as I am personally not affected.

              So, what I try to do, is to rise awareness.

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              • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

                I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

                #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

                jornfranke@mastodon.onlineJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @mina btw. please feel free to share your feedback on open source with the EC: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/16213-European-Open-Digital-Ecosystems_en - European and non-European citizens can contribute

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                • jornfranke@mastodon.onlineJ jornfranke@mastodon.online

                  @mina btw. please feel free to share your feedback on open source with the EC: https://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives/16213-European-Open-Digital-Ecosystems_en - European and non-European citizens can contribute

                  mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @jornfranke

                  Good idea!

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                  • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                    In my opinion, lack of accessibility is the main *real* argument against the widespread adoption of Free and Open Source Software.

                    I reckon, if, especially European, governments and institutions really are serious about digital sovereignty, they should invest serious money (I'm talking billions with "B") into that area.

                    #a11y #FOSS #DigitalSovereignty #EU

                    brad@1040ste.netB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @mina Maybe an investment in accessibility QA would be a good start?

                    Most FOSS projects don't have paid QA and can't provide coverage for use cases outside the developers' own experience of the world. That leads to genuine ignorance of how their projects exclude people who may not be able to or have little time to file detailed bug reports.

                    A QA agency could start with that - later phases could focus on providing funding to submit PRs fixing the issues found 😊

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                    • mina@berlin.socialM mina@berlin.social

                      @agitatra

                      It's about the whole infrastructure, the desktop environments, the installers and especially the development tools.

                      Every € invested in that would be a far more sustainable investment, than trying to build a European Google, ChatGPT, Oracle or Facebook in the hands of European billionaires instead of US-American ones.

                      Money has no Motherland, anyway.

                      327ppm@noc.social3 This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @mina @agitatra

                      I am a DevOps engineer at the Qwant web search engine and I do not see billionaires in our staff.
                      But lots of hard but exciting work. 😀

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                      • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

                        @mina Maybe an investment in accessibility QA would be a good start?

                        Most FOSS projects don't have paid QA and can't provide coverage for use cases outside the developers' own experience of the world. That leads to genuine ignorance of how their projects exclude people who may not be able to or have little time to file detailed bug reports.

                        A QA agency could start with that - later phases could focus on providing funding to submit PRs fixing the issues found 😊

                        mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @brad

                        "QA" means "Quality assessment"¹?

                        If so, your idea is an excellent one, indeed!

                        ¹I *always* try to avoid using acronyms, abbreviations and specific terms, which might be unfamiliar for part of my target audience, in my posts. This is, for me, also a part of being inclusive.

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                        • 327ppm@noc.social3 327ppm@noc.social

                          @mina @agitatra

                          I am a DevOps engineer at the Qwant web search engine and I do not see billionaires in our staff.
                          But lots of hard but exciting work. 😀

                          mina@berlin.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @327ppm

                          Good to know!

                          @agitatra

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