Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae it probably depends on the hardware. It’s not uncommon to find a hacker community around medical devices. Do you mind sharing the model?
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae I believe the NOAH software to setup many hearing aids in the UK is free, but the connectors cost £150ish. Altho looking again it has a free trial now.
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@Jueltrae I believe the NOAH software to setup many hearing aids in the UK is free, but the connectors cost £150ish. Altho looking again it has a free trial now.
@Jueltrae sorry, on phone hit send too soon.
A friend reprograms his own aids but he's unusually techie.
Much sympathy for how crap some audiology is. Can you ask for referral to 'complex fitting needs' person, some clinics have them. Or get them to prebook regular review appts after fitting.
I'm v aware my audiologist is a super star
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae what sort of hearing aid do you have?
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae Some pointers to open source projects (how outdated I don't know): https://shop.tympan.org/
https://www.openmha.orgIf you have a commercial hearing aid I suppose the manufacturers are highly motivated to keep everything as inaccessible as possible because the difference between the cheap, medium and high end model is often only a little software switch.
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
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@Jueltrae it probably depends on the hardware. It’s not uncommon to find a hacker community around medical devices. Do you mind sharing the model?
Right now I wear Phonak Naída P30-UP and trying to adjust sounds in newer Phonak Naída Lumity L50-UP. But also have two other older models - one of them is Phonak Naida B50-SP and the other will check within a month. I want to put back those older ones into use and "fix" them
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@Jueltrae what sort of hearing aid do you have?
Right now I wear Phonak Naída P30-UP and trying to adjust sounds in newer Phonak Naída Lumity L50-UP. But also have two other older models - one of them is Phonak Naida B50-SP and the other will check within a month. I want to put back those older ones into use and "fix" them
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Right now I wear Phonak Naída P30-UP and trying to adjust sounds in newer Phonak Naída Lumity L50-UP. But also have two other older models - one of them is Phonak Naida B50-SP and the other will check within a month. I want to put back those older ones into use and "fix" them
@Jueltrae not open source but this looks like a possibly usable workflow? https://forum.hearingtracker.com/t/diy-how-to-self-program-phonak-has-for-beginners/74974
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Right now I wear Phonak Naída P30-UP and trying to adjust sounds in newer Phonak Naída Lumity L50-UP. But also have two other older models - one of them is Phonak Naida B50-SP and the other will check within a month. I want to put back those older ones into use and "fix" them
@Jueltrae @aeva Phonak app is crappy, although the DSP is pretty good. (Oticon's is better but neither are as good as my earbuds). When I call Phonak support, they seem to be inured to complaints about s/w and wifi. And I have to make an audiologist appointment just to check that the firmware is up to date (fortunately, no charge, but it's a waste of everyone's time).
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@Jueltrae sorry, on phone hit send too soon.
A friend reprograms his own aids but he's unusually techie.
Much sympathy for how crap some audiology is. Can you ask for referral to 'complex fitting needs' person, some clinics have them. Or get them to prebook regular review appts after fitting.
I'm v aware my audiologist is a super star
I have several problems with that solution:
1. The clinic I bought hearing aids from is only in specific town and I need to ride 100 km to them.
2. I usually wait 1-3h here even for planned meeting.
3. The "complex fitting needs" person undermines my suggestions and suggest that I need new hearing test done to be sure about some changes I propose.
4. Fitting happens in closed, silent room where I hear only the audiofonologist, and mine, voice and try to give feedback based on that :< -
@Jueltrae @aeva Phonak app is crappy, although the DSP is pretty good. (Oticon's is better but neither are as good as my earbuds). When I call Phonak support, they seem to be inured to complaints about s/w and wifi. And I have to make an audiologist appointment just to check that the firmware is up to date (fortunately, no charge, but it's a waste of everyone's time).
That's part of me being angry at them. I once tried earbuds for music creators (cost around 190 euro), connected them to my laptop, put some virtual cables, equalizer, amplifier ect. and heard much, much better and clearer than in hearing aids. Especially bc aids cut out very low and very high Hz used in music. Earbuds allowed me to hear those and experience sounds much better for such smaller cost
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@Jueltrae @aeva Phonak app is crappy, although the DSP is pretty good. (Oticon's is better but neither are as good as my earbuds). When I call Phonak support, they seem to be inured to complaints about s/w and wifi. And I have to make an audiologist appointment just to check that the firmware is up to date (fortunately, no charge, but it's a waste of everyone's time).
Ah and very important question. How much is your hearing loss? Mine is 70-85.
I see the tendency in HA bussines where HA for small hearing loss have better maintenance, new features ect. whilst those for my level are neglected and only have upgrades every 5 years or so -
I have several problems with that solution:
1. The clinic I bought hearing aids from is only in specific town and I need to ride 100 km to them.
2. I usually wait 1-3h here even for planned meeting.
3. The "complex fitting needs" person undermines my suggestions and suggest that I need new hearing test done to be sure about some changes I propose.
4. Fitting happens in closed, silent room where I hear only the audiofonologist, and mine, voice and try to give feedback based on that :<@Jueltrae I do understand. Hearing aid manufacturers do not make it easy for us to reprogramme them. Even in the UK with less evil DRM and restrictions on 'hacking' our own tech, hearing aids are medical devices and can only be sold and officially configured by accredited providers.
Also hearing aid manufacturers (half are a cartel https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/silencing-the-competition-inside) spend half their lives suing one another for breaching one another's patents so also make it hard to 'hack' for open sourceness.
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Right now I wear Phonak Naída P30-UP and trying to adjust sounds in newer Phonak Naída Lumity L50-UP. But also have two other older models - one of them is Phonak Naida B50-SP and the other will check within a month. I want to put back those older ones into use and "fix" them
@Jueltrae @aeva I'm pretty sure you can programme Phonak aids with the NOAH software https://www.himsa.com/himsa_download/noah-download-form/downloads-for-noah-es-client-noah-system/installing-noah-system-for-the-first-time/ (reinstall every 45 days to keep it free).
The thing I don't know is how to connect Phonaks to your computer, I am wondering if standard bluetooth works now but Google isn't helping. I don't have standard hearing aids myself.
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@Jueltrae @aeva I'm pretty sure you can programme Phonak aids with the NOAH software https://www.himsa.com/himsa_download/noah-download-form/downloads-for-noah-es-client-noah-system/installing-noah-system-for-the-first-time/ (reinstall every 45 days to keep it free).
The thing I don't know is how to connect Phonaks to your computer, I am wondering if standard bluetooth works now but Google isn't helping. I don't have standard hearing aids myself.
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Ah and very important question. How much is your hearing loss? Mine is 70-85.
I see the tendency in HA bussines where HA for small hearing loss have better maintenance, new features ect. whilst those for my level are neglected and only have upgrades every 5 years or so@Jueltrae @PeterLudemann @aeva
I have Airpod Pro 2's which work ~OK for HA but don't get loud enough and are physically uncomfortable for me.
I stumbled across Anker Soundcore Space A40s, which have similar HA-ish features to the Airpods (such as Transparency Mode / Vocal Mode, custom EQ & HearID tests), get MUCH louder, sound great, and are far less uncomfortable. Got them refurb for $35 from Anker.
Something in the Soundcore line might be worth looking into?
https://thegadgetflow.com/blog/best-earbuds-for-hearing-loss/
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae there is tympan.org.
I wrote a blog post about an earlier hardware revision https://www.scannedinavian.com/open-source-hardware-hearing-aid-part-1.html -
Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
@Jueltrae I just want to applaud the helpful geekiness of this thread. It's a niche topic with lots of helpers!
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Does anyone know anything about free open code software for hearing aids?
Is there any open software for changing the controls of hearing aids without needing an appointment with an audiologist?I get so angry everytime I think about it. After buying something so simple at such an exaggerated cost, I still can't control my everyday hearing. I need around six appointments before the hearing aids stop hurting me every day.
